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LR90XS2011

Member Since: 05 Apr 2011
Location: bickenhill
Posts: 3651

2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green

NEW ELECTRIC JEEEP

https://www.jeep.co.uk/jeep-avenger/electr...UQodSDEHVg DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy

18th Jan 2023 7:45pm

geobloke

Member Since: 06 Nov 2012
Location: Nottinghamshire
Posts: 4410

What a pretty four wheeled iPhone it is too

18th Jan 2023 7:56pm

discomog

Member Since: 09 May 2015
Location: Notts/Lincs Border
Posts: 2533

2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black

Judging by the Italian plates i guess it's likely to be built at their plant in Melfi, Southern Italy. I cannot say I'm impressed with the design of the dashboard. Defender 90XS SW
Mini Countryman Cooper S
Morgan Plus 8

18th Jan 2023 8:34pm

markb110

Member Since: 22 May 2010
Location: Guildford
Posts: 2655

Apart from the grill it looks like a Vauxhall or Volvo.

Another EV vanity project that is the polar opposite of what the Jeep brand stands for.

Freedom - as long as you don't go further than the next charger
The road less travelled = as long as it is on tarmac near to a charging station
Adventure - as long as the weather is pleasant so range isn't reduced
To seek out new lands - well, best not to as not everyone is in a race to the bottom so wont have a charging infrastructure nor the ability to fix it in the field.

Nice colour though.

18th Jan 2023 8:35pm

steveww

Member Since: 05 Jan 2022
Location: Malton
Posts: 577

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Bronze Green

I know quite a few people who have made the switch to an electric vehicle. Without exception it's not going well.

My favourite glitch is the intelligent parking sensors. They come on automatically at slow speeds and if they think you're about to hit something, they put the brakes on. However, when pulling out of the drive which has a slight slope to the road, it seeing the road as an obstacle and stops. The only way to get off the drive is to crawl out at a snail's pace, this fools the system. The best part is there is no way to turn off the feature. The local dealer does not have the trained staff nor the diagnostic kit to investigate, the car has to be sent many miles away and it could take days.

Now that's what I call progress

19th Jan 2023 10:51am

AMBxx

Member Since: 24 Jul 2016
Location: York
Posts: 1041

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Orkney Grey

discomog wrote:
I cannot say I'm impressed with the design of the dashboard.

None of the manufacturers seem to have worked out how best to fit as screen into the dashboard. Always ends up looking as though they forgot about it, then bolted one on at the last moment.
As for touch screens in a vehicle - no thanks.

19th Jan 2023 2:01pm

geobloke

Member Since: 06 Nov 2012
Location: Nottinghamshire
Posts: 4410

discomog wrote:
Judging by the Italian plates i guess it's likely to be built at their plant in Melfi, Southern Italy. I cannot say I'm impressed with the design of the dashboard.

Looks like the styling queues have been taken from the New Defender... Really quite similar.

Click image to enlarge

19th Jan 2023 2:34pm

Jabberwocky

Member Since: 27 Oct 2021
Location: Luxembourg
Posts: 226

It’s like Jurassic park in here🙄🙄

19th Jan 2023 8:12pm

AMBxx

Member Since: 24 Jul 2016
Location: York
Posts: 1041

Good design is timeless.

User Interface design based upon a touchscreen is wholly unsuitable for a vehicle. Fixed position buttons are easily visible and provide feedback when pushed. That means they can be used without looking.

A touch interface provides no feedback so can't tell if you've pushed or not without looking away from the road. Worse still, the location of regularly used buttons can move at the whim of a software update.

As for just sticking a screen on top of the dashboard - that's just crap. It should be properly integrated rather than looking like an afterthought.

20th Jan 2023 6:55am

Hairy Dan

Member Since: 25 Apr 2013
Location: NW Durham
Posts: 1426

1998 Defender 90 V8 Petrol 50th Auto Chawton White

Johnny Smith's closer look at it

Cheers Ian
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22MY Defender 110 D200 SE, Fuji White.
Kielder 4x4 Safari
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20th Jan 2023 3:54pm

excossack

Member Since: 22 Feb 2012
Location: North West
Posts: 5883

1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue

markb110 wrote:
Apart from the grill it looks like a Vauxhall or Volvo.

Another EV vanity project that is the polar opposite of what the Jeep brand stands for.

Freedom - as long as you don't go further than the next charger
The road less travelled = as long as it is on tarmac near to a charging station
Adventure - as long as the weather is pleasant so range isn't reduced
To seek out new lands - well, best not to as not everyone is in a race to the bottom so wont have a charging infrastructure nor the ability to fix it in the field.

Nice colour though.

Same platform as some other Stelantis (if thats how you spell it) who own Vauxhall/Citroen/others 1999 Defender TD5 110

Regards
John M0VAZ
Econet Station 48 no clock

20th Jan 2023 4:03pm

miker

Member Since: 13 Sep 2015
Location: Surrey
Posts: 1768

steveww wrote:
I know quite a few people who have made the switch to an electric vehicle. Without exception it's not going well.

My favourite glitch is the intelligent parking sensors. They come on automatically at slow speeds and if they think you're about to hit something, they put the brakes on. However, when pulling out of the drive which has a slight slope to the road, it seeing the road as an obstacle and stops. The only way to get off the drive is to crawl out at a snail's pace, this fools the system. The best part is there is no way to turn off the feature. The local dealer does not have the trained staff nor the diagnostic kit to investigate, the car has to be sent many miles away and it could take days.

Now that's what I call progress

Parking sensors of course, having absolutely nothing to do with how the vehicle is powered, but a good opportunity to dump on EVs in general?

20th Jan 2023 6:22pm

Tim in Scotland

Member Since: 23 May 2007
Location: The Land that time forgot
Posts: 3753

steveww wrote:
I know quite a few people who have made the switch to an electric vehicle. Without exception it's not going well.

My favourite glitch is the intelligent parking sensors. They come on automatically at slow speeds and if they think you're about to hit something, they put the brakes on. However, when pulling out of the drive which has a slight slope to the road, it seeing the road as an obstacle and stops. The only way to get off the drive is to crawl out at a snail's pace, this fools the system. The best part is there is no way to turn off the feature. The local dealer does not have the trained staff nor the diagnostic kit to investigate, the car has to be sent many miles away and it could take days.

Now that's what I call progress

You do know that Diesel and Petrol powered modern Land Rovers also do that if you have ticked the rear crossing traffic detection system box? It’s works really well too. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!

21st Jan 2023 9:17am

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