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BaronDefenders



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Best Battery
Righto, I’m looking to source a new battery for my V8.

Recommendations please! What’s good out there? Charlie

1949 Series 1 80 (SOLD)
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1958 Series 2 88 Pastel Green (2019 LR Legends Best Restored)
1983 V8 110 Limestone (Previously owned by Tom Sheppard MBE)
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Post #962321 20th Aug 2022 12:30pm
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Ianh



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Varta batteries always perform very well.

As regards standard wet cell, EFB or AGM types. If you don’t have stop start, or an alternator/ regulator setup for properly charging AGM’s, which I don’t expect you have, then I would recommend an EFB. In particular a dual purpose (start & leisure) battery if vehicle is left for over a week without use during winter months.

EFB explained.

https://www.varta-automotive.com/en-gb/tec...technology
Post #962327 20th Aug 2022 1:47pm
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The Zee



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I'd also vote for Varta, it's the OEM battry supplier
In my Puma went for an AGM battery, no issues or compaints, starts perfect. Thumbs Up Zaid-M
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Post #962349 20th Aug 2022 6:31pm
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BaronDefenders



Member Since: 28 Jun 2019
Location: London/Cotswolds
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Sounds like I’ll look into Varta then!

Thanks Thumbs Up Charlie

1949 Series 1 80 (SOLD)
2002 Td5 90 (SOLD)
2008 Freelander 2 (SOLD)

1958 Series 2 88 Pastel Green (2019 LR Legends Best Restored)
1983 V8 110 Limestone (Previously owned by Tom Sheppard MBE)
2004 Td5 90 Santorini Black (Td5INSIDE Powered & Rebuilt by CSK)
2012 Puma 110 Zermatt Silver (Overlanding Build)

Instagram: @BaronDefenders
Post #962369 21st Aug 2022 8:25am
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Mo Murphy



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Numax offer excellent value for money and performance.
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Post #962372 21st Aug 2022 9:14am
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Caterham



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perhaps a little premature to say for sure but my Yuasa seems to have come back from the dead.
having left it with only one croc clip on the battery from the charger for about 4 months it's come back to life Thumbs Up

hopefully get the chance to use it for a few days soon and confirm the situation.
Post #962380 21st Aug 2022 10:06am
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Ianh



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Whichever Battery make you go for, I.e Varta, Numax ,Yuasa etc I would check out Tayna batteries for a good price and great service. https://www.tayna.co.uk/

Irrespective of which manufacturer you choose the big decision is which technology you go for to get the best price / performance balance.

Generally standard wet will be the cheapest, EFB next, and AGM dearest.

Although AGM will perform well the issue is the standard charging setup in our defenders, including puma’s, are not capable of charging AGM batteries to perform at their best . I.e they won’t charge as well as in a vehicle designed to use them to their full capability. E.g a vehicle equipped with start stop and associated AGM specific charging capabilities.

That’s why I like the EFB type battery as our defenders charging setup works perfectly with them and you get better partial charge and deep cycling performance than a std wet cell battery at not much more additional cost.

Of course if you use your defender daily, do not have lots of additional power draining equipment fitted, or leave on trickle charge when not in use for a week or so in the winter a standard wet cell battery will perform perfectly well for many years.
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Angus_Beef



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The Zee wrote:
I'd also vote for Varta, it's the OEM battry supplier
In my Puma went for an AGM battery, no issues or compaints, starts perfect. Thumbs Up


I’m also running Varta AGMs (in a dual configuration with Cyrix VSR and battery monitor) for a few years now. Works flawlessly with the Puma’s smart alternator and in temps ranging from Norwegian winters to Sardinian summers. Roaming around 🇳🇴🇨🇭
Post #962394 21st Aug 2022 1:38pm
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Ianh



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Hi Angus Beef,

To my knowledge the standard defender alternator/ regulator setup is not designed / able to self adapt for optimum charging of AGM batteries, but very happy to be put right if I have it wrong.

Note: The Puma’s do have smart charging, see video at bottom of this topic https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic59852...or+voltage however I believe it has been programmed for a std wet battery and I don’t think it can detect that an AGM has been fitted and adapt its charging voltages appropriately.

This is a good article on the challenges of AGM batteries with older Alternator/ regulator setups that are not originally designed or reprogrammable to cater for AGM’s. https://workshoppist.com/car-alternator-charge-agm-battery/. Articles like this are the basis of my opinions. But agin very happy to be educated if my understanding is wrong.
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Angus_Beef



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Ian, thanks for all your links.

All I know is from my personal experience about what works best.

Having flooded batteries fail on me, I would not go back. I assume you know that depending on the temperature it senses, the Puma alternator charges to 14.82 volts? AGMs have truly been up to the task. The only thing better would be going to Lithium with a DC/DC charger.
Just my opinion.

Cheers. Roaming around 🇳🇴🇨🇭
Post #962429 21st Aug 2022 5:08pm
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