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enfield_dinosaur



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2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Java Black
I found it.


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That's cramped! I think I will postpone my operation to tomorrow and remove the bonnet for better access.

Still, I think I got the wrong replacement part. Seems like it has a fitting for a little tube on the side, not unlike the Transit on Ian's picture. Or doesn't it matter?
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Fifth Horseman



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
The EGR is the same casting for the water-cooled and neon-watecooled ones, the only difference is the pipe you see in Ian's picture, so yes you have the correct one.

Interesting, looking at Ian's pictures it seems that there is now a new design of EGR as a replacement - wonder if it will be any more reliable
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K9F



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Enfield,

If you do not have chequer plate wing tops be mindful however tempting it may be do not climb on or apply any pressure to the wing tops even elbow pressure can leave a dent! Place your cup of tea and tools on the deck!

Thumbs Up If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
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custom90



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I wouldn't remove the bonnet, it won't help and that would be a pain in its self!

Wear some disposable gloves or similar too with good feel if you can as they stop you getting all scraped up.
Otherwise the OH might think you've been in a scrap. Laughing

WD40 the bolts a good 24hrs in advance and don't drive it, it'll loosen it no end.

I prefer the relief of uploading a tune and slipping in a blank and to hell with the expensive little blighters. Rolling Eyes
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enfield_dinosaur



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These are all very good tips, thank you very much!

WD40 stands ready, I got the gloves - and while at first I did not like the silvery chequer plates on my black car, I'm happy I got them now. A boon when I will dive headfirst into the car.

Another tip was to use these tools: Proxxon 23068 Combispeeder. They make loosening the bolts easier in cramped conditions.

So now, got to wait for the rain to stop, and then it's only the four bolts...and me... Thumbs Up
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K9F



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Thumbs Up

Good luck. Undoubtedly there'll be claret all round the area from cuts and abrasions to your hands, there's loads of sharp bits 'n' bobs that'll catch you out. Took a week to heal afterwards first time round until I got the knack of changing blanks let alone swapping out the entire unit. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
enfield_dinosaur wrote:
... Another tip was to use these tools: Proxxon 23068 Combispeeder. They make loosening the bolts easier in cramped conditions...



If you can find (an afford!) a set, these Blue Point (from Snap On) double flex combination spanners are stonkingly useful for inaccessible places. The ability to flex the head at two points is fantastic, especially on modern vehicles designe by computer to be completely inaccessible once assembled.

I don't know if they'd help with the EGR valve, but generally they are very useful!

Blue Point BOERMDFSP712 (photo 'borrowed' off Gumtree where someone - not me - has a set for sale)


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blackrock



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So the workshop manual and Haynes manual both say drain the coolant, but there's no mention of that on the forum that I can find. Does that mean it's drained to swap the cooler? Draining is not needed if it's just the valve that's being swapped?
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Honeyman



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No need to drain the coolant (at least I didn’t). Using ¼” drive sockets allowed access - not pleasant but not as difficult as I’d thought it would be. Something to stand on next to the car helps (caravan step or box etc.)

Good luck 2011MY 130 HCPU: daily driver
1979MY RRC 2-door: on the drive, in the garage & in a shed - all at the same time.
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blackrock



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Hmm, was this on a 2.2 PUMA? It looks like the EGR valve for the 2.2 has coolant pipe attachments on it, maybe the valve separates from the cooler? Or was your EGR on a 2.4?
Sorry, I should have said 2.2.
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Honeyman



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Apologies, yes 2.4, tbf the manual I had for the 2.4 also suggested draining coolant (which I ignored) 2011MY 130 HCPU: daily driver
1979MY RRC 2-door: on the drive, in the garage & in a shed - all at the same time.
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