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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4722  
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As the U.K. is not part of the EU any more this will probably not affect UK drivers only cars manufactured in the UK for sale in the EU.
https://www.msn.com/en-ie/cars/news/eu-to-...a1eaaf9aa7 1982 88" 2.25 diesel 1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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15th Jul 2022 4:49pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17478  
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It is guaranteed to affect us and apply to the UK.
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15th Jul 2022 6:48pm |
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| 90 Dreamer Member Since: 13 Jul 2019 Location: Oop North Posts: 2171 
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Highly unlikely they will make the 6x cars we need a different spec to the Zillion they require in the EU.....
CNuts either way |
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15th Jul 2022 7:41pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17478
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Vehicle regs come from the EC not the EU, and as far as I know we haven't left that.
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15th Jul 2022 7:50pm |
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| chopcat Member Since: 11 Sep 2012 Location: Pembrokeshire Posts: 412  
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Sounds yet another great reason to keep our old defenders going
TC |
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15th Jul 2022 9:27pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20489
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Basically they want to shut the vehicle down remotely to suit, insurer, manufacturer if not owned
Track movements remotely and more. Yet more of the typical, do as your told, do it now dictatorship autocracy one size fits all boring mentality. I think recently everyone wants a prize for the most bizarre or stupid idea. It seems since and during the Pandemic that a lot of stupidity has occurred. 
Personally there isn’t hardly any vehicles on the market any more that I have much interest in so I’m happy with what I have and always have been.  No Guts, No Glory.
🇬🇧🏴🏴🏴🇮🇪🇺🇸⛽️🛢️⚙️🧰💪 |
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15th Jul 2022 9:50pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17478
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Absolutely! |
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15th Jul 2022 10:01pm |
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| diesel_jim Member Since: 13 Oct 2008 Location: hiding Posts: 6105 
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I'm sure it won't be long before someone like BAS can hack into it and diable that part of the software. Or just pull out the 4G SIM card! |
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16th Jul 2022 1:37pm |
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| markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2646  
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Silver foil wraps will be the next big thing….
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16th Jul 2022 2:50pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17478
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The speed limiter aspect is old news anyway, I believe that all new designs of vehicle from this year are required to have "Intelligent Speed Assistance" or ISA. There are manufacturer options, at present these range from preventing exceed speed to providing haptic feedback (e.g., making the pedal harder to press).
It has also been stated that this is likely to become mandatory in existing designs in a few years. It's also worth noting that the G7 leaders in the last few weeks agreed that the sale of new IC-powered vehicles (including hybrids) would be banned completely from 2033 in Europe, which will kill the global IC industry. This is in effect the death knell for the internal combustion engine, since the global market minus Europe is considered uneconomical. More disturbingly the same G7 leaders discussed but (fortunately) did not agree to an absolute ban on all sales of IC vehicles from 2033, which would have made it illegal to sell a second-hand vehicle. This is likely to have a catastrophic effect since effectively any existing vehicle would be worthless. It is to be hoped that when this subject next comes up, which inevitably it will, due consideration is given to classic and historic vehicles, however the long-term availability of fuel is likely to be problematic. The impact on the petrochemical industry will be interesting. Let there be no doubt that the era of the internal combustion engine, which started with Belgian inventor Étienne Lenoir in 1863, is rapidly drawing to an end. The end will be more painful than the beginning, and the changes the IC engine brought about cannot be overestimated - cheap mass transportation which we now take for granted. |
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16th Jul 2022 3:56pm |
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| Birdy Member Since: 07 Oct 2011 Location: Côte d'Azur Posts: 869  
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“It is to be hoped that … due consideration is given to classic and historic vehicles”
I’m afraid not, Low Emission Zones for example. Which politician is going to argue for exemptions and risk “I had to sell my car/have to walk to work, but you want special privileges for millionaire owners of Bugattis and Bentley Blowers!” Defenders stand no chance… Peter |
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17th Jul 2022 8:23am |
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| BrickBox Member Since: 05 Oct 2021 Location: Wales Posts: 842 
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It’s not all doom and gloom for IC engines with the rise in synthetic fuel technology..
https://www.euractiv.com/section/alternati...r-e-fuels/ The e-fuels will hopefully be our saviour to enjoy these dinosaur cars. 2008 2.4 110 Utility Station Wagon XS. |
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17th Jul 2022 8:50am |
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| kenzle8a Member Since: 12 Feb 2020 Location: None Posts: 1074 
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We will still have ice cars / trucks being made after 2030, i doubt we will see an end to them in the next 100 years.
Synthetic fuels will be rolled out because there’s not going to be a realistic battery break though and charging infrastructure that works, oh and they love VED too much. Also batteries won’t work for heavy use cases (agri / freight) I’m still surprised anyone believes the politicians on this. I’m also still surprised that nobody has really called them on net0 being the greater lie of our age, it’s not that it’s not achievable, it’s just not possible when humans exist. |
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17th Jul 2022 8:54am |
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