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Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5804 |
Quick question. Is there any advantage to using a 60 profile KO2 over a 65 or vice versa, on an 18” rim?
I’m not planning to do any major off roading or overlanding in the near future, and use my DC as a road biased daily driver, so just wondering what advantages there might be going down one route or t’other? Immediate advantage for the smaller profile is a £100 saving. Every little helps as they say. Or, why spend £100 on extra rubber when it can be put towards other parts or 20 pints of ale? But any other advantages? Fuel? Noise? Rolling resistance? Nothing? And how much will a 5mm drop affect the speedo, or not at all? Thoughts? Monsieur Le Grenadier I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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24th Mar 2022 9:12am |
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LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324 |
It's not 5mm - it's 5% of the tread width. If the width is say, 265, the sidewall height of a 65 tyre will be 172mm vs 159mm for a 60 tyre. Overall your tyre would be about 25mm or an inch shorter, which would put your speedo out by around 10%.
Plus, small tyres look ridiculous on a 110 Darren 110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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24th Mar 2022 9:25am |
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Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5804 |
Thanks LRA. Always a font of knowledge. Did think 65mm looked smaller than reality
As for the look, that was certainly one I forgot to mention, and important. And you’re right, small = ridiculous. Indeed, I am actually considering a 275 or even (wait for it) a 285….. Monsieur Le Grenadier I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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24th Mar 2022 9:29am |
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geobloke Member Since: 06 Nov 2012 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 4410 |
Aspect ratio aside because LRA has answered that. Some food for thought... Perhaps... In general, taller = more engine effort to turn the tyres and the longer the gears are. Not a problem on the flat but in hillier terrain longer gears can be a pain, especially if you have "upgraded" to the 1:1.22 Disco gearing. Add weight in to the vehicle or tow a heavy trailer and the effect is just multiplied. I forget what era Defender you have Grenadier. Wider tyres = vaguer turning, as in they are less responsive and can create under steer. The extra footprint is good for braking, good in the sand, good on rocky terrain, not so good in heavy rain with standing water on the road and can reduce MPG due to rolling resistance. Whether wider is better in mud and snow than skinny is a topic that has been debated over and over. Six of one, half dozen of the other and utterly depends on whether there is a hard base under the mud or if it is bottomless. Combining wide and tall can really decrease MPG, especially in hilly regions. Tyres with a smaller aspect ratio will feel more positive on the road (less flex in the side walls) but may increase jolt-like vibrations if the road is rough or textured. Wider are likely to be noisier on the road than narrow tyres for the same tread style (AT, MT etc). They are also more likely to track in lorry grooves on the motorways. Generally, MT will be noisier than AT which will be noise than road biased and in the same order for increasing MPG, feel in the corners (so less under steer) and decreasing braking distance. The more I drive Defenders (especially in the UK/Wales under our conditions) the more I am certain that in order to get the best MPG, braking, cornering, component wear and comfort it is best to keep the tyre size to as close to the standard LR size as possible. So a 235/85/16 or 265/75/16. Where I live, which is a mini version of where you live (although we will never openly admit to that...) it is the perfect combination for almost all driving and conditions. They are also less expensive, generally... |
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24th Mar 2022 11:41am |
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Roy5695 Member Since: 15 Feb 2014 Location: Cornwall Posts: 1123 |
Unless you’re a BFG fan boy, have you considered other brands? I had the same dilemma last month and in the last bud opted for the new cooper discoverer AT3 sport 2. Especially if you’re more of an on road driver. These are slightly more than par biased but still handle the muddy stuff occasionally.
In 265/65/18 Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge 2011 Defender DCPU 2.2 - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic30623.html Instagram - @r22oyp Roy |
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24th Mar 2022 1:03pm |
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steveww Member Since: 05 Jan 2022 Location: Uppingham Posts: 567 |
I have the BFG 18" on my 110, see some pics https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic82261.html
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25th Mar 2022 9:47am |
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diesel_jim Member Since: 13 Oct 2008 Location: hiding Posts: 6092 |
I concur... I had 265/75s on my 110 for a while... indeed it looked good but didn't handle that well (or might I say, it seemed to handle ok until....) i fitted 235/85's and thought blimey, this handles well now in comparison to the old tyres. but the 235's look a little wimpy in comparison |
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25th Mar 2022 6:53pm |
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I Like Old Skool Member Since: 23 Feb 2015 Location: Manchester Posts: 808 |
255/85s......
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25th Mar 2022 9:20pm |
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diesel_jim Member Since: 13 Oct 2008 Location: hiding Posts: 6092 |
+1
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25th Mar 2022 9:22pm |
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