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| haymeister Member Since: 24 May 2021 Location: Saitama Posts: 263  
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I found this one a while back from a guy in Sweden.
He says he doesn't have the Matrix one, so it's either the "Base LED" or 'Premium LED with signature DRL". I upgraded to Premium LEDs. Matrix were not an option I could tick. They are decent on dipped but on high beam they are poor IMHO. The spread was good, but the actual intensity was poor. Poorer than my old 2015 BMW 2GT which had the LEDs. Don't have the actual spec but visually the main lamp in the "Base" headlights look different to the Premium LEDs. 22MY Defender 110 D300 S in Pangea Green and Contrast White Roof IG defender_japan "Hulk san" |
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17th Jan 2022 1:29am |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753 
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I’ve seen several YouTube channels and on the FB groups that owners with Premium LED’s don’t think that they that great. I have the Matrix LED’s on the First Edition and also on my Mini and they are really good. Seems odd to be driving on full beam even with oncoming traffic heading at you but you can see the beams changing as the cars go past and the elements change Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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17th Jan 2022 10:11am |
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| XplusYplusZ Member Since: 16 Aug 2021 Location: UK Posts: 484 |
Thanks guys.
The matrix lights I used were awesome - it made a very long drive through the very dark highlands incredibly easy. Agreeing with Tim - it feels so strange leaving them on full beam, but the blanking seems to be accurate doesn't dazzle other vehicles. My main question though is more whether I can get away with the basic LEDs (which look like standard bulbs and reflectors in the configurator!?), OR if I really should upgrade to premium LEDs for decent visibility. I have a BMW 4 series at the moment and am perfectly happy with the bog standard lights on that, but I'm unsure if the LR tech is as good as a 4 year old BMW.. Off topic now, but I have a friend who works in the car industry and was talking to one of the leading lighting manufacturers. They were telling him that the next generation of pixelated light systems are running thousands of pixels, potentially hundreds of thousands - meaning you can get resolutions good enough to project films through them. I'm not sure how practical that would be, but I'm sure James Bond could find a use for it. |
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17th Jan 2022 10:51am |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3391 
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I went for the premium lights, only £500-600 option. But then I was coming from a Velar with matrix lights. To be honest though, if the adaptive driving beam is switched off, matrix lights are no better than standard LEDs. 24MY 90 D250 HSE, Tasman Blue
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17th Jan 2022 2:00pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17363  
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I had someone following me for miles and miles along the A35 last Saturday night, I don't know what the vehicle was (certainly not a new Defender) but I wonder if it had matrix or adaptive headlights fitted. All the time the vehicle was behind me the effect to my rear was that the driver was randomly flashing his main beams on and off, constantly. It was one of the most irritating experiences I have had for a long time, and made me start to have series and evil thoughts long the lines of the movie "Duel".
The following car was on the whole a fair way behind (100 to 200 yards), and it was definitely not simply a sharply cut-off dip beam bouncing up and down. I really hope that it was a random electrical fault not matrix lights, because if this is what we have to look forwards in the future, it will be very, very unpleasant. |
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17th Jan 2022 2:40pm |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3391
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Sounds more like high beam assist, which I find hopeless. It’s switched off on mine. The matrix adaptive driving beam is more subtle when it changes as it only blanks out the oncoming vehicle. 24MY 90 D250 HSE, Tasman Blue
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17th Jan 2022 3:12pm |
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| Farmerben Member Since: 16 Jan 2017 Location: Herefordshire Posts: 605 
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My Disco matrix lights were doing that when I was following a lorry the other night so I turned them back to manual but don't think it has happened since. https://instagram.com/bentheoandrews |
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17th Jan 2022 3:20pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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Harry had something to say about the lights on his loaner:
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17th Jan 2022 5:19pm |
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| mmbanf Member Since: 16 Mar 2021 Location: Milano Posts: 163 
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Hello
I am happy owner of a 90 base, with base led headlights. the lights illuminate very well on the road, before i had a vw touareg xenon, in my opinion they are at least the same or better (LR). watching the video, they look the same to me. only thing that's not good, in the tight hairpin bends in the mountains in total darkness the lights do not illuminate the corner ...... completely black! for this reason I was forced to mount after the fog lights which improve the situation enough. |
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17th Jan 2022 5:49pm |
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| TomekW Member Since: 21 Feb 2015 Location: Warsaw Posts: 192  
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Hi, all options are LED lights, which provide nice, white light, no yellow crap. - basic LED - I saw one new defender with those lights yesterday; I am not able to say how they actually perform but when you look at the car, they look something like on the old defender with trucklite led lamps; you can clearly see the cut-off line  Click image to enlarge - premium led adds circular DRLs and do look different when you look at the car; you do not see the horizontal cut-off line - matrix led - as premium + intelligent matrix feature I went with premium leds which works very well in my opinion 2021 Defender 90 D250 1998 TUL 1997 TUM FFR 2003 Defender 110SW Td5 1985 ExMOD 110 ST 3.9 V8 1971 Series IIa Lightweight |
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17th Jan 2022 8:54pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753
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The new Mercedes EQS has those thousand pixel headlights - not sure if they are standard fit or a very expensive option though! The car has been test driven in Norway by Bjorn Nyland on his EV channel,on YouTube Edit Sorry I should have posted this one which is purely about the lights…. The interesting bit starts around 9 minutes in. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come 2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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19th Jan 2022 2:51pm |
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| XplusYplusZ Member Since: 16 Aug 2021 Location: UK Posts: 484 |
For those who might be interested, I found this vid has quite a lot of exterior headlight footage from the Namibia Press Launch. Interestingly, I don’t see any models with the signature DRLs. It looks like all had the basic light units.
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