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Setok

Member Since: 16 Jan 2009
Location: Helsinki
Posts: 422

BigMike wrote:

In this country, lets face it, the days of green lanes being open are numbered, and no matter what GLASS does, the fight will be lost eventually. so why should LR design a vehicle for the die hard purists which are a small market. Certainly for desert environments toyota kicks the arse of landrover in terms of reliability of drivetrain and suspension components, there's just no question about it. The evoque is LR appealing to a large market, and why not? its a business, not a shrine to enthusiasts. the new vehicle (I think) will be somewhere between an evoque and a defender to get the bigger market, i just cant see it being a hardcore offroad biased vehicle.

That area is already well covered by the Freelander and Disco. So if it's not utility oriented, what new is it bringing?

8th Oct 2011 7:02pm

Setok

Member Since: 16 Jan 2009
Location: Helsinki
Posts: 422

ZeDefender wrote:
BigMike wrote:
Matt, thats not the iveco theyre talking about. its this

Looks like the old toyota!

God that's ugly! It looks like something the Russians/Yugoslavians would build during the Cold War. Does it have a chassis?
I prefer the IVECO on the YouTube clips - might buy one and square it off, Landy-style

It's slightly ugly, perhaps, but I actually prefer it to the DC100. It has that no nonsense utility look to it, which I dig. Assuming you're talking about the Iveco.

8th Oct 2011 7:04pm

22900013A

Member Since: 23 Dec 2010
Location: Oxfordshire
Posts: 3149

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Keswick Green

Setok wrote:
ZeDefender wrote:
BigMike wrote:
Matt, thats not the iveco theyre talking about. its this

Looks like the old toyota!

God that's ugly! It looks like something the Russians/Yugoslavians would build during the Cold War. Does it have a chassis?
I prefer the IVECO on the YouTube clips - might buy one and square it off, Landy-style

It's slightly ugly, perhaps, but I actually prefer it to the DC100. It has that no nonsense utility look to it, which I dig. Assuming you're talking about the Iveco.

Well lets face it, both of them are better than the DC100! 2011 110 USW
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8th Oct 2011 8:27pm

mikelike

Member Since: 31 Aug 2011
Location: new zealand
Posts: 108

looks like a spanish land rover to me , a santana , they run iveco engines

8th Oct 2011 8:34pm

Ads90

Member Since: 16 Jun 2008
Location: Cots-on-the-Wolds
Posts: 809

2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Keswick Green

Even if you are able to buy a new one of those (awful) Iveco things in a few years time... surely you'd still be better off (& more up-to-date) with a 2nd hand late Defender?

I will lament the Defenders passing (after all, I love driving my new, vintage car), but when the inevitable happens - it's got to be forwards, not backwards for me.

9th Oct 2011 10:21am

alantd

Member Since: 14 Dec 2008
Location: Northamptonshire
Posts: 1513

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green

I'll probably end up buying the replacement in 6 or 7 years time. I'll probably keep the 110 though to remind the kids that "when I was young..."

Progress - pah! One that started out as a 2.4 TDCi 110 XS
+ New Defender 110 First Edition

11th Oct 2011 11:55am

dnorrishill

Member Since: 15 Jul 2011
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 615

2014 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Aintree Green

mikelike wrote:
looks like a spanish land rover to me , a santana , they run iveco engines

It's an Iveco Massif, that was built by Sanatana, but Iveco pulled out of the deal due to poor sales and Santana have now gone bust - so sorry to say that's off the list of DC100 alternatives (not that it was on my list, it's a bit ugly).

11th Oct 2011 12:12pm

22900013A

Member Since: 23 Dec 2010
Location: Oxfordshire
Posts: 3149

dnorrishill wrote:
mikelike wrote:
looks like a spanish land rover to me , a santana , they run iveco engines

It's an Iveco Massif, that was built by Sanatana, but Iveco pulled out of the deal due to poor sales and Santana have now gone bust - so sorry to say that's off the list of DC100 alternatives (not that it was on my list, it's a bit ugly).

By the sounds of it IVECO have since had a change of heart... 2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton
1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker
1969 IIA 1-Ton
1966 IIA 88"

11th Oct 2011 5:23pm

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