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| Birdy Member Since: 07 Oct 2011 Location: Côte d'Azur Posts: 865   
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“..what the hell is reason to have such high road tax for larger cc engines”
Pretty normal in fact for older vehicles, for example Luxembourg’s: “… either on the basis of CO2 emissions for M1 category passenger cars registered for the first time after 1 January 2001; or on the basis of the engine size for vehicles registered before 1 January 2001" Peter |
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14th Nov 2021 9:52am |
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| tango90 Member Since: 26 Apr 2020 Location: Kildare Posts: 33 
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I feel your pain. It is the same in Ireland a 3ltr L322 is €1,800 to tax for a year plus to get a decent one you have to purchase in the UK and for the pleasure you have to pay a Vehicle Registration Tax to put it on the road here, a 2005 HSE Td6 with 150k on the clock will cost approx. €8,500 on top of the purchase price in the UK.
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15th Nov 2021 10:19am |
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| AMBxx Member Since: 24 Jul 2016 Location: York Posts: 1031  
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It's a shame we can't just tax based upon the amount of fuel used. Much simpler - we could call it 'fuel duty'. It would be impossible to evade and collected simply at the point of purchase.
Why do the politicians make everything so complicated?  |
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15th Nov 2021 11:59am |
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| Mike c Member Since: 11 Aug 2017 Location: Maldon, Essex Posts: 928  
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Agree, also this means there will be no more zero road tax cars, I strongly disagree with this as its very unfair imo
Everyone should contribute if you drive a vehicle on public roads, irrelevant of its emissions |
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15th Nov 2021 12:19pm |
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| Birdy Member Since: 07 Oct 2011 Location: Côte d'Azur Posts: 865
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"It's a shame we can't just tax based upon the amount of fuel used"
But how would you collect tax on electric vehicles? French system much simpler... no annual tax, rather a one-off at the time of purchase depending on CO2. Can be hefty though, compare a Mercedes E Class Coupé's 260 euro with a Defender's staggering (maximum) 30,000 euro. Motorway tolls extra, of course, but in any case we will no doubt in future all be charged for road usage based on what and where we drive. Peter |
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15th Nov 2021 1:17pm |
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| Race.it Member Since: 27 Aug 2019 Location: Algeciras Posts: 816  
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If there is zero tax on some road vehicles then it’s not really a road tax.
I spain they are trying to put a tax on road journeys like I. Portugal you pay for all roads per mile, so that and fuel tax, in theory will drive people to use the more fuel efficient cars. The problem is the condition of the roads years ago they invested a lot to build new roads but have not maintained them so the locals don’t want to pay for them to be repaired as they say they should already be in a fit state. Searching for my first Defender...and started just as Covid hit, so talk about timing. 5 months after starting the search I found it, and here is the details |
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15th Nov 2021 2:52pm |
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| Mike c Member Since: 11 Aug 2017 Location: Maldon, Essex Posts: 928
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Oddly, here you still have to "tax" the vehicle each year even if there's no charge!
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15th Nov 2021 3:11pm |
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| miker Member Since: 13 Sep 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 1763 
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It's not, and never has been "road" tax. Roads are funded by councils, and paid for by council tax and other central govt funding. |
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16th Nov 2021 12:26pm |
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| Mike c Member Since: 11 Aug 2017 Location: Maldon, Essex Posts: 928
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This may be true, but either way, all should contribute that own and drive a vehicle on public roads.
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16th Nov 2021 2:09pm |
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| miker Member Since: 13 Sep 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 1763
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They do, through income tax, council tax, tax on goods etc.
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16th Nov 2021 2:10pm |
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| Mike c Member Since: 11 Aug 2017 Location: Maldon, Essex Posts: 928
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Hmm, so some of us contribute twice then 🤔
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16th Nov 2021 2:46pm |
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| buffalo4 Member Since: 18 Apr 2020 Location: South Yorkshire Posts: 63
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Running more than one vehicle, it soon adds up
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16th Nov 2021 4:11pm |
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| Mike c Member Since: 11 Aug 2017 Location: Maldon, Essex Posts: 928
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It does indeed, either way nobody should pay 0 for rfl, it makes a mockery of the whole thing. My other half's car is 0, doesn't mean I agree with it.
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16th Nov 2021 7:06pm |
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| pjm-84 Member Since: 12 Apr 2021 Location: Hampshire Posts: 661
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Its an incentive. A bit like BIK for company cars.
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16th Nov 2021 8:32pm |
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