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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018   
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3 mins to go and only 194 watching on YouTube
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29th Sep 2021 5:58pm |
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| mikeh501 Member Since: 07 Jan 2013 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1142
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bit of a yawner so far.
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29th Sep 2021 6:25pm |
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| 23GPS Member Since: 19 Jun 2010 Location: Blackdown Hills, Somerset Posts: 26 
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Total waste of time. Disjointed waffle. Keep it simple - poverty spec.
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29th Sep 2021 6:30pm |
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| mikeh501 Member Since: 07 Jan 2013 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1142
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* july 2022 delivery - 23 sales and service outlets. 12 only service outlets. mix of agri and car partners.
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29th Sep 2021 6:31pm |
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| mikeh501 Member Since: 07 Jan 2013 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1142
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I think the workshop manual and CAD access is pretty cool.
3 year unlimited mileage warranty. |
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29th Sep 2021 6:36pm |
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| mikeh501 Member Since: 07 Jan 2013 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1142
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2 seat and 5 seat versions for the SUV. nothing new there.
Dont know why hes tight lipped on the pickup given its been all over FB etc. Yacking about EV stuff and reckons hydrogen is the future. sounds like it isnt built as a BEV platform which isnt a surprise given its construction. |
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29th Sep 2021 6:38pm |
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| mikeh501 Member Since: 07 Jan 2013 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1142
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UK pricing..
2 seat commercial - £48k rrp inc vat reckons it wont have a load of expensive options. sounds like they are going to limit the options to keep the manufacture more straight forward. |
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29th Sep 2021 6:40pm |
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| mikeh501 Member Since: 07 Jan 2013 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1142
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production numbers are 30k in 2026 - peak year. so they are ramping up to that from a low base.
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29th Sep 2021 6:44pm |
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| mikeh501 Member Since: 07 Jan 2013 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1142
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So basically learned
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29th Sep 2021 6:49pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Access yes ~ but nobody mentioned if you have to pay extra for it. 
Was rather hoping we would get the 5 years the Aussies are getting. |
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29th Sep 2021 6:50pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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I think I heard 2,500 for UK in 2022 going to 6,000 in 2026; but then maybe that plan moves forward if there's a high conversion rate on the 75k hand raisers. Press reported earlier today and named 3 UK partners, but chap online mentioned only 1 all signed up? Is the Configurator live online at midnight tonight? |
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29th Sep 2021 6:53pm |
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| ChasingOurTrunks Member Since: 19 Aug 2020 Location: Canada Posts: 89 |
I thought there was a lot of new info there - at least, a lot of things got moved from "rumour" to "fact"; I did a bit of a blow-by-blow for another forum (www.ineosforum.com, just got established) that I will cut-and-paste below; this was posted over three or four posts in the other thread so please excuse repetitions and errors as I was typing as it was being announced:
I'll keep a running narrative on what I'm seeing so far: 1) USA is 2023 availability. Most other places are 2022. 2) The YouTube comments are full of people who mostly do not know what they are talking about and likely should be ignored. 3) They have moved from sales to service. Service plan looks excellent. They've confirmed the online manual and parts diagrams, and their commitment to being able to fix it. They've also hand-picked Bosch sites to repair. 4) I can't believe what I just heard - they are committing to having a service center within 45 minutes of...Everywhere in Africa. Read #4 again. That's nuts. And incredible. 5) What configurations? - 2 and 5 seat wagons. - Pickup is coming. - Otherwise tight lipped -- potential to do more (Service bodies are almost a certainty, I think) - EVs/Hydrogen question: Alternative Fuels are on the radar. Ineos "is quite good with Hydrogen". 6) UK Pricing? - 2 Seat Commercial is the base model with 48k including VAT in the UK. - WON'T be a vehicle that has a "start price" of 48k and then doubles as you add stuff. It's $48k for a very capable, well equipped vehicle. - Focus is on value (i.e. it's not the cheapest thing out there but there's a lot of vehicle for the model). 7) Crew Cab Pickup timeline: - More than on the drawing board, coming along well. - Focus is on getting started and they are being careful not to bite more than they can chew.  BMW Dealers and Service question
- Engines and Powertrain are the most complicated bit.
- BMW is absolutely not exclusive. They are helping in South Africa, but they are also working closely with Bosch Car Service.
9) USA Information
- Yes, 2023.
- This includes Canada according to Mark (Hooray!) but the panel keeps talking about USA. I really just want one of them to say "...and Canada" for 100% confirmation!
10) Production Volume?
- 2026 they want peak production of about 30k vehicles, but have 70k people already interested.
- 2.5 k per year to start in the UK, build to 6k.
- Target of 4k in the USA (Interesting)
- They believe they will hit peak year before 2026.
Sorry for the multiple posts, just want to make sure I don't hit any Forum Timeouts and lose the "live thread" aspect. 11) Difference between Commercial variant and the 5-seater: - Commercial classification is based on European standard, and the key difference is the position of the rear seats and the angle of the seat back. The reason is the load space has to have a certain relationship to the wheels and back door, so this is the main difference. Also this means the commercial version is fold flat seats (the floor will be flat! Hooray! - but this is for commercial only). 12) When will we see paint jobs? - Very, very soon. - CONFIGURATOR IS GOING LIVE TONIGHT! I got a bit excited on that configurator news, sorry. 13) What's the deal with reservations? Opens tonight at midnight. Opens on the 14th of October for everyone else. Asking for a $450 pound/euro/dollar deposit. This gives you a reservation slot when they start taking orders. 14) best feature on a Grenadier for a dog? (Love this question 😃) - Immense amount of space and no one is going to be upset if you're muddy. Brilliant answer. Social Media team is going through all the questions in the next few days for those they didn't get to live. Looks like things are wrapping up, but this was the play by play I heard over my lunch break! There's a slight feeling of being left wanting, but overall I'm pretty happy - more to be excited for than sad about. |
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29th Sep 2021 7:24pm |
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| llessur Member Since: 15 Nov 2011 Location: Hereford Posts: 151
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Bit disappointed with the presentation and information released.
Last edited by llessur on 29th Sep 2021 7:39pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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29th Sep 2021 7:29pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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You must do shorthand ~ well done. #4 ~ must have been a miss-speak, that's just not possible, is it? They've confirmed the online manual and parts diagrams ~ was it just online or will there be an offline version? Target of 4k in the USA (Interesting) ~ was that the initial figure or the stretch target? Last edited by Supacat on 29th Sep 2021 7:42pm. Edited 4 times in total |
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29th Sep 2021 7:32pm |
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