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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 4227   
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Koni Heavy Track and Heavy Track Raid are well known Defender options. The raid especially so for serious expedition work. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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16th Sep 2021 4:33pm |
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| Moneypit Member Since: 27 Feb 2018 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 271 
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I've got Heavy Track on a 110 and rate them
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16th Sep 2021 5:44pm |
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| markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2653  
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Don’t they have to be removed from the vehicle to adjust them?
If so that would be a massive pain in the ‘arris. There are shocks out there that have external adjustments which makes life much easier. I was given a set of pre-production Terrafirma +5 inch shocks to test, on, off road, green landing, play days and competition. They lasted seven years. This year I changed to Old Man Emu +5 and so far don’t feel or miss the adjustment option. Still early days though but happy so far..  |
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16th Sep 2021 5:50pm |
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| ickle Member Since: 22 Jul 2010 Location: South Vendee Posts: 1804  
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I have Koni Heavy Track Raids on mine for the last seven or 8 years, set them on 'soft' from day 1 and have never needed to adjust them-their only fault is the paint quality is poor.
HTH Keith |
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16th Sep 2021 7:02pm |
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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 4227
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It seems providing a durable paint finish on anything is a lost art these days. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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16th Sep 2021 7:05pm |
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| Nidge Member Since: 27 Jan 2008 Location: Kildare Ireland Posts: 821  
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Heavy track +2" Koni Shocks on 110 hardtop with light load also set to the softest setting...only fox shocks outperforms them in my opinion.
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16th Sep 2021 7:23pm |
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| jimbo55 Member Since: 15 Jul 2020 Location: Midlands Posts: 400
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Both the heavy track and the raid seemed to be all the rage a few years ago but as you say you hear nothing of them,
The Road/sporty ones seem to go for the fox shocks where previously they went for bilsteins, The overland/heavy loaded ones seem to be going for the OME where they would potentially have gone for Koni previously. I think a lot of it comes down to the marketing of them, fox shocks get raves about by everyone on Facebook etc. And whilst yes they are good (and I run them on my 90) are they really that great? Or is it just because other people have them? Now whilst yes Koni shocks were great upgrades a few years ago (bar the taking off to adjust), have they kept up with the crowd? I don’t know as I haven’t used them, but given the amount of people that have used them previously they can’t be a bad choice. The only other thing to consider is that shocks are only one part of the system, you need to consider the springs, anti roll bars, bushes, etc. As a complete package, things will work differently for different people as the usage and demands from the vehicles are all massively different |
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16th Sep 2021 8:12pm |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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I've had Koni's on a couple pf previous Land Rovers and if I needed uprated shocks I'd fit them again. Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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16th Sep 2021 9:13pm |
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| bankz5152 Member Since: 02 Feb 2017 Location: South London/North Kent Posts: 2188 
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HT Raids on mine. Amazing shocks. Taken some real abuse iver the last 60k and still spot on.
I adjusted mine a few times until I found what I was happy with. Yes a pain to remove and adjust but its a set once kind of deal. Cant say I agree with the paint, mine are a couple years old now and after a jetwash they look brand new. Instagram @defender_ventures Empire Tuning - Agent |
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17th Sep 2021 4:24am |
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| Vogler Member Since: 02 Nov 2014 Location: Brussels Posts: 309  
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I had Heavy Tracks on the rear but when of them failed, I swapped all dampers for Raids, knowing that I would drive a lot of corrugations in Iceland. They perfomed nicely. They are well built, thick walled etc. Clearly in another league than nomal Heavy Tracks,
The front ones are on the softest setting (as advised by Koni), the rear come set on 20pct stiffness (1 half turn where 5 turns are the maximum) but I reduced this to 10pct / quarter turn when I installed them, based on some reviews that 1/2 is quite harsh for an empty Hardtop 110, and mine is mostly empty. I don't think that I have found a report of a Heavy Track Raid failing, and there's a nice piece here where an OZ tour organiser reports on the tyres and the Raids. I did find reports though that the standard raids don't cope well with a lift, in that case it is apparebtly better to fit the models that can handle more lift. You do find reports on failing Heavy Tracks (so NOT the raids). One of mine failed after the top mount unscrewed itself from the shaft. To be honest I don't know exactly what to look for to properly finetune the RAIDS, except for harshness. When fully loaded for travel, the car is a bit 'boaty' but I think that's rather due to the absence of an anti roll bar. I painted them black by the way, I fancy keeping the Defender a bit understated. Here's one of the Raids next to a standards Boge rear damper:  Click image to enlarge J Antares Treadwell, a MY06 110 Td5 in Chawton White |
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17th Sep 2021 12:53pm |
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| 4RF RDS Member Since: 19 Jul 2015 Location: Ottawa Posts: 955  
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http://www.red90.ca/rovers/shockinfo.html 2010 Range Rover MkIII Autobiography Super Charged (Idris)
2003 Range Rover Mk III (Desmond FitzWilliam) 2000 Defender 110 CSW TD5 (CTX) 1992 Range Rover Classic (Lizzy) 1972 Series III 300 Tdi (Stanwood) 1967 MGB GT Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956) |
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17th Sep 2021 11:29pm |
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| Danny Fireblade Member Since: 16 Mar 2018 Location: Hampshire Posts: 320 
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I have OME and I am very pleased with them
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20th Sep 2021 10:16am |
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| alexatnd Member Since: 19 May 2015 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 281
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Yup- agree with you there. Many thanks for all the replies TBH didnt expect that many, much appreciated A Santa - 1977 Series 3 - new chassis, tub, disc brakes,SU Carb Gertie - 1999 110 TD5 - like a Phoenix from the ashes back on road... almost Effie - 2004 110 TD5 County |
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27th Sep 2021 1:25pm |
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