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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324  
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You've quite possibly blown the fuse but that is likely indicative of the wipers being seized. The wheel boxes are the prime culprits here. You may get away with it by lifting the rubber boots at the base of each spindle and dousing them in penetrating oil (not WD40!) but failing that they may need replacing.
It's worth checking other, simpler stuff first, of course. The fuse as mentioned and then the switch. Darren 110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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31st Aug 2021 10:10am |
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| X4SKP Member Since: 29 Nov 2013 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2295 
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Hello m3vert
My symptoms were more or less your symptoms... 
As LRA says your Wheelboxe/s are probably where this is leading... My Experience... https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic57900-15.html Good Luck... SKIP https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic83242.html |
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31st Aug 2021 12:58pm |
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| m3vert Member Since: 15 Mar 2018 Location: Central Scotland Posts: 162  
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Thanks for that information. The fuse was fine and I double checked it. I pulled back the rubber boots at the base and a load of rust fell out. The car has been parked up for the last 11 days. I didn't have any penetrating oil but did have WD40 so I used that and managed to get the wipers working again so thank you very much!! Is it still worth getting some penetrating oil into the area? Is there anything further I can do to clean things up or should I just leave things well alone now? Thanks in advance. |
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31st Aug 2021 2:14pm |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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You could try packing the rubber boots with grease to keep the water out. I suspect that you may be on borrowed time witht he wheel boxes though, unfortunately. Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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31st Aug 2021 2:19pm |
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| m3vert Member Since: 15 Mar 2018 Location: Central Scotland Posts: 162
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Thanks. I will do that. I am guessing that this is a grim job on the puma? If I do need to take the dash out to do this job, am I as well biting the bullet and go the whole hog for this:
https://www.lrparts.net/lrc2270-heavy-duty...esign.html |
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31st Aug 2021 2:23pm |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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Take a look at the link that SKIP posted above to see the work involved in changing them. Whether that warrants the cost of the parts you've linked to is debatable - if the originals were properly greased and sealed then it's likely that they'd soldier on indefinitely. Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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31st Aug 2021 2:55pm |
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| m3vert Member Since: 15 Mar 2018 Location: Central Scotland Posts: 162
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Yes I have just read through that thread and think that probably doing the job myself is pushing things a bit! Don't fancy it to be honest. I called Engine 710 who are my local specialist and they have just quoted me £400 to do the job which replaces both wheel boxes and also replaces the wiper motor as well. Decisions decisions!!! They can't do the job until October though and I just hope I can keep them working until then if I go that route.
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31st Aug 2021 3:01pm |
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| Oldowner Member Since: 26 Dec 2018 Location: South west Posts: 616 
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Lift both wipers off the screen so no resistance. Put them on fast wipe, move the rubber caps out of the way and spray penetrating oil / wd40 or similar down the spindle as they are moving. Leave them on for half an hour or so and keep spraying. Then move onto some engine oil in an oil can and drip it down the spindles. They usually free up and work really well if treated like this - I did an 02 td5 the other day with seized wiper and after half an hour they were better than they had ever been.
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31st Aug 2021 5:48pm |
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| trailbear Member Since: 14 Sep 2016 Location: Scotland Posts: 405
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Why not try MMP Landrover in Dundee, they seem to come up a lot on the forum with good reviews and recommendations.
I have never used them personally although I have previously asked for quotes for work and they are far cheaper than engine 710 prices, which I think are a bit steep. Might be worth a try. |
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1st Sep 2021 8:56am |
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| JPE Member Since: 19 Nov 2018 Location: South West England Posts: 333 
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This is unlikely but thought I'd mention it in case it helps.
When this happened to me I changed the fuse under the steering wheel which I later realised is for the rear wiper; it took me a while to realise there is a fuse under the seat for the front wipers. |
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1st Sep 2021 9:34am |
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| AT1963 Member Since: 08 Jul 2020 Location: Leicestershire Posts: 148 
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Did mine 2/52 ago on a TD5.
Sounds like wheel boxes as mine did the same. I used genuine parts £114 for 2 wheel boxes, wire rack and new park switch. Not sure you need motor replacing as i thought mine would be blown but it wasn't so all good. if wheel boxes have seized you should replace even if they are now working. Also. wire rack should be replaced and it is worth replacing park switch as this is dead easy. Good luck Andy btw- after i did this the wipers work so much better  |
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2nd Sep 2021 6:38pm |
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| jamesdcooper Member Since: 07 Aug 2024 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 1 
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Hi Chaps!
New 2011 Puma 90 owner here, so please be gentle! I have the same issue. Turned on wipers yesterday, they moved slightly and then stopped. No sound from washer motor and no movement. I know that the wiper park sensor was naff already but wipers worked fine otherwise. I checked fuses but can only find a corresponding fuse under the steering wheel (10A) the ones under the seat don't seem to have a fuse for the wipers yet all the posts on here seem to say that it should be there. See photos of the fuse diagrams printed on the inside of the box I have. I've tried penetrating oil, that hasn't worked (yet) but aware that I may have missed a fuse! Any advice is welcome! Thanks in advance.  Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge |
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7th Aug 2024 6:00pm |
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| Cragster69 Member Since: 15 Jun 2021 Location: Scotland Posts: 192 
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Someone electrically intelligent will be along soon, but my guess would be Fuse F11 the 15 A one
Click image to enlarge Which from your picture looks like it doesn't have a number and may have been changed previously Click image to enlarge Good luck Craig. “Don't believe everything you read on the internet.” ― Abraham Lincoln www.scotgrc.co.uk |
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7th Aug 2024 8:41pm |
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| jim4244 Member Since: 13 Apr 2014 Location: Bedfordshire Posts: 773  
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From my limited experience of Puma's the fuse (Fuse 11) appears to blow on a regular basis when the wiper spindles and gears in the wiper drive start to fail.
If you pull the fuse and it is intact then the wiper motor has probably burnt out due to a seized spindle. If this is the case you will have to bite the bullet and remove the dash and replace the wiper assembly. It looks and sound scary but in reality is well within the capabilities of the average Defender owner. If you do a search there are a few threads on this, Jim |
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8th Aug 2024 4:33am |
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