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alexatnd



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Poorly TD5
Think I've got a poorly 1999 10P TD5

Parked her up sat night everything was fine, went to move her Sunday lunchtime and strong smell of electrical burning. Took the batery out fairly damn fast. Initial symptom was a bubbling of the plastic fuse box cover . Had a furtle under the dashboard and found some charred plastic.

Removed the dashboard to find this. Can anyone point me in the direction of what that particular connector might have been servicing. ..Think it was blue to start with .. possibly black

Realise this is the effect and not the cause

Any help appreciated
Rgds
Alex


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Gertie - 1999 110 TD5 - like a Phoenix from the ashes back on road... almost
Effie - 2004 110 TD5 County
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iforland



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Hi, try looking at this site to see if it helps:

https://www.lrworkshop.com/wiring-looms/de...om-td5-rhd

From the site above it could be the rear heated window or washer....
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Retroanaconda



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It’s a header, rather than a connector per se, so it only serves to join common wires together in a circuit. It looks like it was black as were the wires leading into it so it would most likely be an earth header.
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rallysteve



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Looked again on a larger screen and concur that it is the black header

Steve 02' 110 TD5 Double Cab Rebuild Thread
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Justtellme



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Might actually be the cause as I can see some ugly green corrosion that might have caused some high resistance, then melting....I think this has been reported on this board in the past.

Patrick
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MadTom



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I have seen ad repaired (removed) quite o lot of these header, because of poor contact, corosion a finally some burn. "Drobek" = The Small One - Discovery 2, "Blufínek" = The Blue Thing - Defender 130, and for me at least Ford Mondeo Smile
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4RF RDS



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If you want, PM me with an email address and I’ll send you a pdf electrical manual for the 99 Td5

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A.Rubio



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It is one of the diseases of Td5, the only solution is to eliminate these connectors or join them with cables and wrap them in heat shrinkable tube. The problem comes from the connectors, especially the ground one, the contacts get hot and come out on fire. It happened to me in Tunisia but I managed to get home and eliminate the connectors, all the connectors.
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mrd1990



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MadTom wrote:
I have seen ad repaired (removed) quite o lot of these header, because of poor contact, corosion a finally some burn.

Are they all the same polarity? i.e can they all be joined together as one or does the header contain multiple joints that need to be kept separated?

Assuming all the wires are earth, I would check all earthing points in case one went bad and the current got diverted to the header, overloading it.
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alexatnd



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Can confirm that the connector is actually blue and not black and not all the cables going into it are black, I've got black, brown/blue, light green and a couple I haven't tracked down to some sheathing yet .... Santa - 1977 Series 3 - new chassis, tub, disc brakes,SU Carb
Gertie - 1999 110 TD5 - like a Phoenix from the ashes back on road... almost
Effie - 2004 110 TD5 County
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alexatnd



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And its this one

https://www.lrworkshop.com/connectors/defender-1999/C0287

i.e. Connector C0287

Got some 8 way "go away" earthing blocks need to find some smaller ones

A Santa - 1977 Series 3 - new chassis, tub, disc brakes,SU Carb
Gertie - 1999 110 TD5 - like a Phoenix from the ashes back on road... almost
Effie - 2004 110 TD5 County
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MadTom



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In RAVE in electrical part, there is description of these headers, together with schematics.
I hade just replaced the header blocks with proper made soldered joints, covered in heatshrink tubes. No more problems. "Drobek" = The Small One - Discovery 2, "Blufínek" = The Blue Thing - Defender 130, and for me at least Ford Mondeo Smile
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alexatnd



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Yup thats the plan. Started off thinking about chunkier connector blocks but going down the solder route

A Santa - 1977 Series 3 - new chassis, tub, disc brakes,SU Carb
Gertie - 1999 110 TD5 - like a Phoenix from the ashes back on road... almost
Effie - 2004 110 TD5 County
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alexatnd



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mrd1990 wrote:
MadTom wrote:
I have seen ad repaired (removed) quite o lot of these header, because of poor contact, corosion a finally some burn.

Are they all the same polarity? i.e can they all be joined together as one or does the header contain multiple joints that need to be kept separated?

Assuming all the wires are earth, I would check all earthing points in case one went bad and the current got diverted to the header, overloading it.


Unfortunately they're not all earth wires, you've got 4 groups of wires Santa - 1977 Series 3 - new chassis, tub, disc brakes,SU Carb
Gertie - 1999 110 TD5 - like a Phoenix from the ashes back on road... almost
Effie - 2004 110 TD5 County
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