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| ehenfrey Member Since: 22 Jun 2021 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 5   
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Hi guys,
Could anyone recommend speaker upgrades fro a 90? might be p***ing into wind, I know. |
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29th Jun 2021 9:12am |
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| hank Member Since: 12 Sep 2016 Location: South Wales Posts: 2292  
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The general consensus on this forum is Focal ES100K components up front, run through a Focal IBUS 20 active subwoofer.
I did not believe the hype but was suitably proved wrong when I heard them and now have a set fitted myself! If you have time to read 60 odd pages see here https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic14698.html Some focal related threads here https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic75049.html https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic53240-138.html https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic53240-147.html https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic53232.html https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58767.html > 110 XS Double Cab |
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29th Jun 2021 10:31am |
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| X4CAC Member Since: 30 Apr 2018 Location: Midlands Posts: 212 
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In my 90 I went for the Focal ES100K up front and ES130K in the rear (which needed a little modification to make them fit), plus the rear tweeters went up into the telephone piece of the headliner.
I then went for the Focal iBus 2.1 sub which is in a mud stuff under cubby locker and then behind the passenger seat I've also added a Focal FDS 2.350 amp. As mentioned before decent sound proofing makes the world of difference. My set up is ear-bleedingly loud... just as I like it  |
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29th Jun 2021 2:17pm |
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| pilsburypie Member Since: 19 Jul 2021 Location: Birmingham Posts: 176 
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I’m halfway through the focal iBus 20 and es100k upgrade…… by that I mean I’ve installed the iBus 20 sub and wanted to see how that went before going for the es100k components…..
Sound is better….. considerably. Before there was zero low end, now there’s plenty - not boom box boy racer level, but a good fill out. However I feel there is a hole in the mid bass, higher bass frequencies. Certain tracks highlight this more than others. I’ve faffed with settings as much as I can on the factory Alpine CDE 133BT headset but it’s not cured the mid bass hole. Is there any suggestion on settings? I was wondering that the sub goes up to 150hz but I’m not sure on what the factory non premium 4” speakers go down to. I’ve read that the focal es100k go down to 120hz. Would this cure that hole? Or is it a fact that past the upper end of the sub can’t be filled by little 4” speakers? Thoughts appreciated. |
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25th Jul 2021 2:53pm |
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| Moneypit Member Since: 27 Feb 2018 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 271 
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I have used Rockford Fosgate direct replacement speakers for year's, very good sound and available at really cheap prices if you shop around. Seen a full Harman Kardon system and an awesome Infinity install, mega bucks money
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25th Jul 2021 9:39pm |
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| Landymatt Member Since: 31 Dec 2018 Location: York Posts: 191
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CO1, X4CAC,
I think I’m aiming for a similar setup to you. Took delivery of an Ibus 2.1 and Focal ES100K speakers yesterday. Went to plug the Ibus 2.1 in, and found that none of the connectors behind my factory Alpine CDE-133BT fit the supplied loom. What connectors did you have / use? I was planning on using the high level speaker outputs from the HU but if that’s a pain am considering the RCA pair, although I’m unsure if this will drive the sub and speakers, and I think will involve me having to run new speaker cables from amp to speakers. Advice appreciated! Matt |
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29th Jul 2021 6:19am |
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| pilsburypie Member Since: 19 Jul 2021 Location: Birmingham Posts: 176
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I’ll try and help, but it’s a bit of the case of the blind leading the blind!
I think your 2.1 is different from my 2 in the fact that mine is purely an amp for the sub where yours can drive speakers too. If you just use the rca low level inputs that is the low level bass. You won’t get your input for your speakers. I think. |
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29th Jul 2021 7:08am |
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| Landymatt Member Since: 31 Dec 2018 Location: York Posts: 191
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I've done a bit more parping about about with this, maybe this will be useful to others, maybe someone will come along and tell us I've got it all wrong, or tell us it's already been done, but here goes:
The first thing that became apparent when I took the middle dash out was that nothing supplied supplied with the Ibus 2.1 appeared to fit any connectors in my 2015 Puma, i.e. nothing appears to be ISO connections, but rather this thing, which then goes to the back of the factory Alpine CDE-133BT head unit.  Click image to enlarge So because nothing was going to fit, I've ordered a Defender (MY2013 onwards) to ISO adaptor, like this: 1. Click image to enlarge The above, however, then needs to somehow connect the Defender to the Head Unit, so I've ordered one of these: 2. Click image to enlarge Until a week or so I knew nothing about car audio, ISO connectors, and lots of other stuff, but it seems like half of these connectors carry speaker-only signals, and the other half carries power and other information. So I think I can take half of the ISO connector from the Head Unit and plug it into the Defender wiring loom bound bit of the ISO connector (to get power etc from the Defender to the head unit) and take the other half to my Ibus sub / amp, to get my tunes from the amp to the speakers etc. I plan to get the audio signals from the Head Unit to the Ibus via separate RCA cables. I've tried to sketch this out, and I know this will make some people wince, but here it is. Comments / corrections welcome! Click image to enlarge I haven't received any of the adaptors yet so can't tell you if it fits together or works or not, but I'm hoping it means I don't have to chop cables and splice etc. cheers, Matt |
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