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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324  
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Unless somebody has hacked the original wiring around, it should just be plug and play. You'd need to take one out to know what's needed, unfortunately.
Why do you think they'll fail an MOT? Unless they're particularly cheap and nasty ones, there's no particular reason why they should. Darren 110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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21st Jul 2021 8:23am |
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| 90 Dreamer Member Since: 13 Jul 2019 Location: Oop North Posts: 2152 
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as above complete units are commonly "E" marked.........
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21st Jul 2021 8:24am |
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| Jgh112 Member Since: 12 Jul 2021 Location: Devon Posts: 20 
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Yeah i guess, i just now that, vehicles that didn't roll out the factory with LED's, arent legally allowed to have them, the rules changed a few years ago. Of course also depends on your tester. i have already swapped out indicators, sidelights and all rear lights, but the sidelights don't work because they will have hooked them up to the led headlight for the ring around it on the sidelight setting, then the full led for dipped beam.
I have looked behind and there seems to be a box junction of wires, but not sure how to create a 3pin exit for the new headlamps. Can you buy a plug and play loom for the original 3 pin headlights? |
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21st Jul 2021 8:29am |
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| midlife Member Since: 15 Apr 2015 Location: Cork Posts: 122  
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As far as I know after market correctly marked led units are fine. Are you thinking of hid sets which needed to be factory fitted or have the washers adjusters etc to be legal?
Last edited by midlife on 21st Jul 2021 8:38am. Edited 1 time in total |
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21st Jul 2021 8:33am |
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| camelman Member Since: 27 Feb 2013 Location: Peak District Posts: 3372
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Not true. Its totally legal to fit LED headlights to any vehicle as long as they are an approved unit ('E' marked').  |
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21st Jul 2021 8:35am |
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| dorsetsmith Member Since: 30 Oct 2011 Location: South West Posts: 4554 |
MOT inspector notes update as per 2021 re headlight mod HID and LED
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications...onversions |
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21st Jul 2021 8:52am |
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| camelman Member Since: 27 Feb 2013 Location: Peak District Posts: 3372
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As the link above states, it isn't legal to put a LED bulb into a halogen headlight (unless the vehicle is pre April 1986).
It is legal (on any age vehicle) to change the whole headlight unit to LED as long as it as an approved LED headlight. |
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21st Jul 2021 9:00am |
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| dorsetsmith Member Since: 30 Oct 2011 Location: South West Posts: 4554 |
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The H4 head light connector can find with short wire tall As fitted sidelights use 2w Econoseal connector female |
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21st Jul 2021 9:50am |
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| Jgh112 Member Since: 12 Jul 2021 Location: Devon Posts: 20
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Thanks guys I think really it would be best to change back, thinking the best way would be to just swap out the entire wing loom that plugs into top of bulkhead as the wiring behind the headlamp is a bloody mess.
Saves anything being exposed to corrosion and saves rejoining stuff that already has bad connections. For about £90 that isn't bad to swap both looms out for complete standard ones. |
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21st Jul 2021 10:33am |
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| ngins Member Since: 15 Jan 2017 Location: Down South Posts: 85 
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As others mentioned in this thread, as long as the units are E marked and approved then they are fine. I believe the guidance is trying to find all those who just try and change the bulb in the original vehicle reflector which was originally designed for the beam pattern of a halogen bulb, if you swap these halogens for an LED replacement H4 bulb or whatever that was not approved for the reflector it is no good. It sounds like you have full replacement units so you should be fine. (As long as they are E marked).
It’s worth remembering Landrover also does/did fit the Nolden LED headlights to the defender themselves as original equipment so this kind of lamp has been approved as original equipment for the defender. (Although any E marked approved LED full sealed unit is ok) |
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25th Jul 2021 6:47am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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I haven't checked recently, but wasn't it mandatory to have levelling and cleaning devices now? |
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25th Jul 2021 8:38am |
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| kenzle8a Member Since: 12 Feb 2020 Location: None Posts: 1074 
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^ only for gas discharge units, led units as far as i know don’t count in this as long as they are e marked.
My truck passed it’s mot with truck lites June with no issues or comments. |
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25th Jul 2021 9:19am |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20359
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E marked LED units are fine, non E marked units are not.
Fitting LED fixtures in a Halogen housing is not allowed. Bear in mind whatever is fitted they need adjusting and aiming correctly too, or they’ll be on about that as well. Meanwhile many actually go around with faulty lights… far worse if a problem. Last night I had someone behind me with one headlight on full beam the other dipped and I’m pretty sure they were aimed at the sky. Shining in my mirrors, I pulled over to get rid of it. A BMW with illegal font plates and drove at excess speed around blind country lanes. Say no more… $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R 🇬🇧🏴🏴🏴🇮🇪🇺🇸⛽️🛢️⚙️🧰💪 |
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25th Jul 2021 10:21am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Just looking at the latest published updates ~ https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspection...es/updates and it seems the latest is this:
Click image to enlarge This is a change over the earlier update in January, and appears to remove vehicles first used priot to1 April 1986.  |
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25th Jul 2021 11:51am |
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