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| freds Member Since: 26 Mar 2009 Location: London - England + Cape Town - South Africa Posts: 53   
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I am finishing my planning stages of a trip from the southern most tip of Africa to the southern most tip of India, via Egypt, and have everything sorted except WHAT TYRES DO I GO FOR???? I need the car to still be able to overland with the most practicality and reliability possible - but I also dont want it to look like a overloaded box sacrificing on looks and off road ability..
I would love a set of 285/75 R16 or 265/75 R16 BFG's but need some advise as to if these tyres are really viable and if not what would be the best tyres for the trip. If i were to go for a set of 285/75 R16 or 265/75 R16 BFG's: Will they seriously hinder my vision seeing as i will be carrying 2 spares, one on the bonnet and the other on a rear bracket and will they actually fit on the bonnet? Im putting full Old Man Emu suspension onto the car which will give it a bit of a lift, but how much of a lift do i need to compensate for these wheels to work without problems?? Will they effect fuel efficiency, seeing as most of the roads are dust and rock tracks i wont be getting into 5th gear all that much? Will they grind into the wheel arch/well when I turn? Will They grind up into the wheel arch/well when the suspension compresses over heavier terrain even with my OMS's? Will they effect my lock/turning circle without spacers? Will they cause my speed to decrease or create any vibrations at speed caused by the angle of the shafts and so on?? Will they cause any wear and tear that could decrease the cars reliability on the trip? THANK YOU FOR ANY HELP OR ADVISE I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT!! if you want to contact me personally please feel free : freds_@msn.com MANY THANKS 
Freddie |
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26th Mar 2009 8:37pm |
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| fekete Member Since: 24 Dec 2008 Location: Here on the other end of the computer Posts: 3626 
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This site will give you your speedo calculation and different tyre size readings and measurement
BFG are a really good tyre http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY |
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26th Mar 2009 9:59pm |
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| Sonic3d Member Since: 28 Jan 2008 Location: Ross on Wye Posts: 1505 
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I have 285 - 75 - 16 BFG MT on my 110 it also has old man emu 2" extended springs
They dont rub the arches Very strong sidewalls Very good wear rate Might be a bit big and heavy for the bonnet I fitted spacers to improve lock The extra size corrected the speedo You say you wont get into 5th much so Mpg wont be in issue The tyres dont cause transmission vibration its only if you lift the ride height too much  Click image to enlarge |
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26th Mar 2009 11:34pm |
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| sasha2001 Member Since: 02 Jan 2009 Location: New Zealand+ russia Posts: 206  
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Michelin xzl or xzy etc, they are very tough in the sidewall and do not get punctures very easily espically in sudan etc when you get the thorns which go through the sidewalls like knife through butter. we got 2 punctures a day with goodyears, trucks with michelin got NONE
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26th Mar 2009 11:40pm |
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| AJS4X4 Member Since: 28 May 2008 Location: Surrey Posts: 793
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285/75x16 on a 7J rim ?
Andy. Andy. www.ajstyres.co.uk 01737 241370 Junction 8 M25 Surrey. |
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27th Mar 2009 6:20am |
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| freds Member Since: 26 Mar 2009 Location: London - England + Cape Town - South Africa Posts: 53
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THANKS EVERYONE FOR THE HELP!! MUCH APPRECIATED!!
MK What stress would be put on the components with bigger tyres and is it likely that constant shudders and bumps for miles and miles will be damaging to the car if i put on bigger ones?? (I have a TD5) Also in terms of the OME set up - i've got the extra heavy duty springs with some serious nitro chargers going on.. however no one was able to give me a definite idea as to how much of a lift they would give.. anywhere from 1" - 3"... but i put similar ones onto my wrangler and ended up with a 4.5" lift.. so dont know whats going on there.. haha.. Sonic3d Thanks for the info! its good to see a picture of an almost identical truck to mine! looks good! how long have you had them on for and have you had any probs? what do you rate - would you take your land rover round Africa and India with these wheels on - could it be done with ease? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I dont know if this will work but these look like the sort of thing i am looking for:
The car belongs to member 'AndrewS' - if you read this please could you give me some info on tyre size (they look like the 285/75/R16) and mods that had to be done to accommodate them (suspension etc), and youve been through morocco and others, how did they perform, what would be your advise?? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lastly what do you rate are the chances of these tyres failing due to punctures? a few of you touched on the subject but im looking to take BFG's and will only be carrying 2 spares - and i could imagine these tyres will be impossible to get hold of outside of south africa if we need new ones.. in short, are they strong enough.. THANKS GUYS - I PROBABLY SOUND LIKE A COMPLETE TOOL BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE.. (This Land Rover Forum is faaaaaar more efficient and better than any of the Jeep forums.. No surprise there.. haha)[/u][/i] |
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27th Mar 2009 7:10am |
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| MK Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Santiago Posts: 2425  
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Check this link to see the aprox. lift you will get
http://www.landroverclub.com.ar/viewtopic....2e107067a. Be aware this is the actual OME chart and differs from the one published by ARB Puma 110" SW ............................................................. Earth first. Other planets later |
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27th Mar 2009 10:53am |
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| freds Member Since: 26 Mar 2009 Location: London - England + Cape Town - South Africa Posts: 53
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Hi all, Went to go and have some of the bits and bobs put onto the car today, things like bull bar, winch and so on, and they had these: 285/70/R17.. so i popped them against my car and they look amazing.. im just slightly worried about the amount of height thats left for the tire to travel up into the wheel arch.. Now the suspension is stock in the photos and i am putting on the OME 'Extra heavy duty' suspension which should lift the car buy 40mm - 3"... if is does will this tyre then fit no probs? (bare in mind that the wheel rim at the moment is sitting close to 3" off the center of these tyres and that these are actually made for a 17" rim unlike my 16's) PLEASE ADVISE Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge |
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30th Mar 2009 1:25pm |
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| AndrewS Member Since: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Hereford Posts: 3708 
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Hi freds
My car runs on BFG 285/75 16 the tyres are on Zu rims. The grey 110 behind the red uit is my sons, that hat car ran on Cooper STT 285/85 R18s tyres on specially made Mac5s. We have entered 2 comps in Morocco with no tyre issues. Oh in the top pic the front is lifted by 2". Now its sat on a complete 2" lift. |
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30th Mar 2009 3:53pm |
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| freds Member Since: 26 Mar 2009 Location: London - England + Cape Town - South Africa Posts: 53
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Great! AndrewsS I've been desperate to chat to you, what do you think about doing a trip of this magnitude with those tyres.. would you do it without second thoughts.. and then what lift/suspension do you have? have you got spacers to stop the wheels grinding into the wheel arches/wells when you turn.. please give me the full run through - if i hear from you saying it will be fine I'll buy the bloody things tomorrow. I've looked through your photos and you have done sand and mud and all that, plus i would imagine Morocco is similar terrain to Africa - or most of it..
Getting very very excited now!! Thanks Freddie  |
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30th Mar 2009 4:06pm |
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| AndrewS Member Since: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Hereford Posts: 3708
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Yes I would love to do your trip and would use the BFG's no worries. The Cooper STT are also very good and possibly better in soft sand.
Have a look at this thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic103.html?highlight=rims
There is no rubbing at all with the Zu rims shod with the 285 BFG's. The Zu's have an 8mm off set. I have also been able to increase the turning circle with the Zu's. Some would say that the BFG Muds are too aggressive for sand I would agree however, as a tough all rounder they do perform great and if you are in soft sand air them down to 15psi and you will be fine. The Red Dwarf has a 2" Old Man Emu lift. |
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30th Mar 2009 4:45pm |
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| freds Member Since: 26 Mar 2009 Location: London - England + Cape Town - South Africa Posts: 53
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GREAT!! 
So your running basically the exact set up im doing.. and have had no problems - exactly what i was wanting to hear from somebody! I think i need the mark 5's then - the steel option is better suited.. will any wheel with a 8mm off set work? will have a look at your thread - think i might have already seen it? Thanks Freddie |
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30th Mar 2009 5:08pm |
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| freds Member Since: 26 Mar 2009 Location: London - England + Cape Town - South Africa Posts: 53
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WAIT IS IT AN 8" OR 8MM OFF SET?? (8mm seems... well small...) |
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30th Mar 2009 5:23pm |
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| fekete Member Since: 24 Dec 2008 Location: Here on the other end of the computer Posts: 3626
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That would be 8mm not 8"
NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY |
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30th Mar 2009 5:45pm |
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