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v8bob



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Yes the two pin and 1 pin both fit on the dixon slide.

If you do go for a cheaper slider you might need to get a file out.
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diesel_jim



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2 pins have a lot less "clunk" as well Wink
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Norfolk-n-chance



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Is solved the clunk issue by slotting a couple of old steel tent pegs into the corners of the plate. The lightweight style pegs like a bit of lightweight angle iron, they slot in easily and lock everything up “a committee is a group of people who individually can do nothing, but as a group decide nothing can be done.”
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Ianh



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Norfolk-n-chance wrote:
Whoever thought that buying a trailer originally designed to be towed behind a Land Rover would need so many things to be adapted or modified!


The issue is it was designed to be towed behind a military Land Rover, so no spare wheel on the rear door, pintle fitted on the crossmember and I think those land rovers are extra inch off the ground. As diesel Jim stated the penman was designed to be nose down, However not as nose down as civvy defenders force it to be without raising the spare and mounting the pintle as high as possible.

But in the end there is nothing quite like having a penman behind your defender and they will last a lifetime. I remember towing mine home a 100mile when first bought . It was so easy I kept forgetting it was there and got many waves from other passing defenders and quite a lot of looks from other vehicles.
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Vitesse



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Totally agree Ianh
The Penman is bullet proof (probably literally!) and a pleasure to tow.
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blackwolf



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Without wanting to divert this thread, does anyone know where I could get a replacement gas spring for the Bradley MH35 coupling on a Penman or widetrack Sankey? They seem to be totally unavailable, and it annoys me that one failed gas spring could result in at least the coupling and possibly the trailer being scrap. Bradley Dixon Bate (the world's most unhelpful company since the Al-Ko takeover) initially denied making the coupling then simply refuse to sell parts for it.

Someone, somewhere, must know where there's a stock of these!
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Norfolk-n-chance



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Have you tried Blanchards? “a committee is a group of people who individually can do nothing, but as a group decide nothing can be done.”
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Norfolk-n-chance



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I remember towing mine home a 100mile when first bought . It was so easy I kept forgetting it was there and got many waves from other passing defenders and quite a lot of looks from other vehicles.[/quote]

Well, today (Friday) is the big day!!
I’m going to choose and collect the Penman, then I’ve got a 150mile tow home so we’ll see Ian!!!

I will admit to being ever such a little bit like a kid!!!!!! “a committee is a group of people who individually can do nothing, but as a group decide nothing can be done.”
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Ianh



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Don’t forget to set the pintle to rotate in all the excitement Very Happy
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Norfolk-n-chance



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It was a long day but very much worth it!
I’ve never towed anything so easy, like a dream.
I had the pick of around 25 trailers and I chose the best one, still with the grease on all the parts and the moulding spiky bits on the tyres.
NATO hitch fixed to the slider saddle and set at the highest point, hooked up with door open and once closed there was about 25mm clearance between the top of the hitch and the spare wheel.

And I remembered to set the hitch to rotate, thanks Ian!! “a committee is a group of people who individually can do nothing, but as a group decide nothing can be done.”
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blackwolf



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I can't make it out in the photos, but did you remember to fit a locking pin or wire to the jaw of the pintle?

It is important since under certain (rare) conditions the NATO pintle can come open releasing the lunette, and there are few good outcomes. There are bespoke clips (and indeed you may have one, I can't see), but I tend just to use an offcut of fence wire or similar.
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Norfolk-n-chance



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No, I, er, well, oops...

No I didn’t lock the hitch, I’ve had a look at the proper pins and I can’t justify £25 for an overgrown safety pin!

I think I’ll do as you do and use a wire or similar Thumbs Up “a committee is a group of people who individually can do nothing, but as a group decide nothing can be done.”
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Norfolk-n-chance



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blackwolf wrote:
Without wanting to divert this thread, does anyone know where I could get a replacement gas spring for the Bradley MH35 coupling on a Penman or widetrack Sankey? They seem to be totally unavailable, and it annoys me that one failed gas spring could result in at least the coupling and possibly the trailer being scrap. Bradley Dixon Bate (the world's most unhelpful company since the Al-Ko takeover) initially denied making the coupling then simply refuse to sell parts for it.

Someone, somewhere, must know where there's a stock of these!


Did you try PA Blanchard? It’s like Aladdins cave there! “a committee is a group of people who individually can do nothing, but as a group decide nothing can be done.”
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blackwolf



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I will give them a try, thank you. I tried one or two dealers, most of whom can supply a complete coupling but not just the gas spring. As far as I can tell, the MoD doesn't replace the springs, just the couplings (probably send the coupling out for refurb but I am not sure to whom, possibly the exceptionally unhelpful Al-Ko) and therefore doesn't hold stocks of gas springs to declare surplus.

Blanchards was one I haven't tried, so thank you for the suggestion.
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Ianh



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Norfolk-n-chance wrote:
No, I, er, well, oops...

No I didn’t lock the hitch, I’ve had a look at the proper pins and I can’t justify £25 for an overgrown safety pin!

I think I’ll do as you do and use a wire or similar Thumbs Up



£9.99 or less for pin https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/253994888072?ca...gKGFvD_BwE

Worth it to not see your new shiny penman doing somersaults down the road Very Happy
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