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| ashtrans Site Sponsor Member Since: 08 Nov 2008 Location: Harpenden Posts: 256  
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cracked screens appear to be a big problem on the new defenders, I had one crack from a small stonechip when I put the heated screen on, on a frosty morning, expect to have a new screen at least once a year at £ 1200 a go, my 110 went back for other reasons and I have a new one coming in July, after some research I have found :
http://clearplex.co.uk/index.php they put on a protective film on the screen for £ 300, looks well worth it and they say they see the same issues with new G wagons and this sorts it, OK with heated screens and HUD and cameras etc. I will get it applied when my vehicle arrives but I thought I would share in the mean time. Dave |
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14th Apr 2021 12:34pm |
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| Ryderoo Member Since: 28 Aug 2015 Location: South Oxfordshire Posts: 1666  
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That look good ashtrans.
I’ve suffered from chipped and or cracked screens, averaging 1 a year, various vehicles all pickups/ 4x4 type vehicles. Mostly on motorways. I shall look into this for my new Defender when it arrives. Be good to see a review when it’s been installed Cheers Simon I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you 1990 110 TD5 county, my first Land Rover - gone 2012 Discovery 4 XS SDV6 - gone 2014 Discovery 4 XS SDV6 - gone 2015 Evoque SD4 dynamic - Wife’s - gone 2015 Urban Truck 90 XS Santorini Black Hard Top - Reluctantly gone 2020 Discovery 5 Eiger Grey 3.0 SE - gone March 24 2021 Defender S D250 Santorini Black 110 HT - gone March 24 2023 Evoque P300e SE wife’s current vehicle |
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14th Apr 2021 12:49pm |
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| ashtrans Site Sponsor Member Since: 08 Nov 2008 Location: Harpenden Posts: 256
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if not genuine then LR wont warranty cameras / lane guidance etc,
if genuine but fitted by autoglass it will have to go to LR for 'calibration' after fitting, all chargable ! Dave |
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14th Apr 2021 12:49pm |
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| ashtrans Site Sponsor Member Since: 08 Nov 2008 Location: Harpenden Posts: 256
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also big backorders, some in the US are waiting 3-5 months for a replacement !!
mine was 4 weeks, Dave |
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14th Apr 2021 12:51pm |
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| Retroanaconda Member Since: 04 Jan 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 2635 
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The recalibration should be included in the Autoglass covered costs (less insurance excess).
The warranty issue is exactly the problem, sadly my insurer’s policy is that they will reserve the right to fit non-genuine parts. Not an issue on older vehicles but I’ve never had a car in warranty before so missed it. Strange also that I’ve driven my older Land Rover(s) for decades and literally hundreds of thousands of miles without so much as a chip in a screen, yet three months in with this car I’ve several chips and a big crack. Seems the strength of the screens is not up to much these days. |
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14th Apr 2021 1:20pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753 
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Thinner glass - less weight - lower CO2 emissions.
It has long been a complaint among L494 owners over the RRSport forum that the glass is more like stunt sugar glass than vehicle glass, it breaks so easily. The only cracked screen I’ve had on any Land Rover was on my L494. Fortunately it wasn’t big enough that a glass welding repair couldn’t be made but then the passenger side of the heated front screen failed 4 months before the warranty ran out and a replacement screen was fitted courtesy of the local dealers or which ever replacement glass company they used - it was a genuine LR screen they put in too. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come 2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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14th Apr 2021 2:02pm |
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| ashtrans Site Sponsor Member Since: 08 Nov 2008 Location: Harpenden Posts: 256
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likewise, I have done many miles in many cars with no issue but for £ 300 I think I will try it :
https://youtu.be/cDRcWwrAeao Dave |
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14th Apr 2021 2:27pm |
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| Retroanaconda Member Since: 04 Jan 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 2635
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Will be interested to hear how you get on.
The absurdity of Autoglass is that they cannot tell me where it comes from until they order it, so I’ve had to book an appointment in to allow them to do that. Due to the complexity I’ve got to go to one of their fitting centres. “Don’t worry sir we’ll book it at your local one” - so that’s a 3 hour drive from home, never mind at least it’s a day out. Then another day out to take it back to the dealer for calibration. I’ve heard rumour that only the OE glass is available at present and so that is what they are fitting, so I’m hoping that this is true. If not then hopefully they’ll let me pay the difference in cost for the proper item. |
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14th Apr 2021 2:58pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753
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Here in the U.K. Pentagon have been marketing this stuff for years BUT I’m not sure if it is approved for the front screen as it does slightly distort the view out and I’ve only experienced it on ship’s heated glass not on a cars heated front screen.
It was fitted as an anti piracy measure on several ships I sailed in when they were operating to West Africa and in the Gulf of Aden and Indian Ocean. Glad that I never saw it being tested out with a real live round from an AK47 - the idea wasn’t to stop the rounds from entering the wheelhouse but to prevent thousands of flying shards of 12mm thick armour glass from tearing the bridge team to pieces. The other issue with it was that after a couple of years in tropical sun it delaminates and started to peel off the glass - not a huge issue in the U.K. unless you park your car in direct sun light all day long but the little air bubbles under the film were a bad distraction. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come 2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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14th Apr 2021 3:11pm |
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| hezor Member Since: 01 Feb 2021 Location: Nurmijärvi Posts: 53 
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I got a quote of 400€ for ClearPlex from my local detailer. I think I'm going to get it installed immediately when I receive my car. 22MY Defender 110 P400e SE w/ Off-Road Pack, Driver Assist Pack, Cold Climate Pack, Comfort & Convenience Pack + ClearSight Rear-View Mirror & 11.4" Infotainment Screen
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15th Apr 2021 8:54am |
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| ashtrans Site Sponsor Member Since: 08 Nov 2008 Location: Harpenden Posts: 256
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good idea, the dealers should offer this as an option or maybe thats admitting the stock screen is not fit for purpose Dave
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15th Apr 2021 11:13am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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Impressed to read on the link:
"Used and approved by NASA, the only approved screen protection for the International Space Station." Had thought is was the windows, then reading further it's used as a screen protector on i Pads. 🤣 |
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15th Apr 2021 4:04pm |
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| Digger2000 Member Since: 19 Sep 2020 Location: Newcastle Posts: 590 
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I spotted that! 🤣
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15th Apr 2021 4:09pm |
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| kenzle8a Member Since: 12 Feb 2020 Location: None Posts: 1074
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Gorilla Glass or whatever apple use would be lethal zero G if it escaped, they would have to vent the whole station or even abandon certain parts of it. |
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9th May 2021 6:26am |
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