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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3391  
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Dealer allocation sounds right, I wouldn’t imagine they’d have a large amount available at the moment. Deposit, here in the UK a lot of dealers insist on a £1k so again sounds right. Dealer hidden fees, I suppose they may be open to negotiating but it doesn’t matter where you are in the world a car dealer is a car dealer and they will stick fees wherever they can. Order locked/delivery date sounds right. 24MY 90 D250 HSE, Tasman Blue |
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13th Apr 2021 10:03am |
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| LincsLR Member Since: 08 Mar 2021 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 27 
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Relax, that all sounds about right. Limited number of the V8 as LR don’t want to impact their corporate emissions levels. It’s too expensive for them, and there are only so many Tesla carbon credits they can buy
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13th Apr 2021 10:14pm |
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| JOW240725 Member Since: 04 May 2015 Location: Suffolk Posts: 7905 
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Welcome to the forum
 I can't help with questions but great spec!! Very envious! James
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14th Apr 2021 5:54am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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Does that make any sense in the context of all the V8 SVR variants in the JLR fleet? It may be more down to wanting to manage supply to avoid discounting and manage exclusivity. I think in the States dealers have the option to sell above manufacturers on the road price if there is demand? |
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14th Apr 2021 6:30am |
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| LincsLR Member Since: 08 Mar 2021 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 27
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Yes, it makes perfect sense, and for the very reason you outline. There are other SVR variants across the JLR model range and while the sales numbers of these are small, collectively they continue to hurt JLR. They are among the worst for CO2 emissions and are having to pay tens of millions each year in fines to the EU. The only way they’re managing to mitigate some of this cost is through CO2 pooling schemes, buying the credits from companies such as Tesla (who themselves use this as a way to reduce losses). JLR are impacted so badly because of their reliance on Diesel engines, so you may ask why put the V8 out at all. But the simple fact is they need these halo cars to keep the market interested while they work hard to pivot towards BEV. They haven’t helped themselves by cancelling the new XJ while Gerry gets to work on the new Jaguar strategy.
So yes, perfect sense. Make a halo car, sell it in numbers that make sense (they have already developed the platform and the engine is old tech so no development costs) and then constrain the market through dealer allocation and waiting lists. The SVR is £100k+ car, and highly profitable. Make enough to sell and make good money, without tipping the fines over to the next level of pain because the escalating fines start to reduce that profit. |
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14th Apr 2021 8:47am |
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| Japseroony Member Since: 02 Jan 2008 Location: North East England Posts: 807  
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Was not aware the V8 Defender was an SVO car? It certainly is not badged as such and is only available in limited colour's so not even an SVO paint job
Gas, Grass Or Ass - Nobody Rides For Free
"UNDERSTEER" ----is when you hit the fence with the front of the car. "OVERSTEER" ------is when you hit the fence with the rear of the car. "HORSEPOWER" ----is how fast you hit the fence. "TORQUE" -----------is how far you take the fence with you. |
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14th Apr 2021 12:50pm |
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| LincsLR Member Since: 08 Mar 2021 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 27
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V8 isn’t an SVO car; no suggestion that it is. It is just another version of the standard car with a bigger engine and some upgrades but certainly not enough changes to make it SVO. It’s only the engine that’s relevant here because it’s the same one that’s in the RRS SVR, albeit with a different power output.
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14th Apr 2021 1:30pm |
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| Japseroony Member Since: 02 Jan 2008 Location: North East England Posts: 807
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Sorry, I thought your comment as above indicated you thought it was as the Defender 110 V8 is £101,250 basic OTR price Gas, Grass Or Ass - Nobody Rides For Free
"UNDERSTEER" ----is when you hit the fence with the front of the car. "OVERSTEER" ------is when you hit the fence with the rear of the car. "HORSEPOWER" ----is how fast you hit the fence. "TORQUE" -----------is how far you take the fence with you. |
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14th Apr 2021 1:34pm |
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| LincsLR Member Since: 08 Mar 2021 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 27
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Oh sorry, should have been clearer but that post ran on somewhat!
No, I meant the real RRS SVR. I had a look at it again and kept wondering if I should go for that instead. But it’s old where the Defender is new. And it will be replaced next year. And while you need to add loads of equipment that comes on the defender v8, the discounts are strong and the drive is probably better. But there is just something about the new Defender. I fully expect as soon as I have my V8, an SVO fettled car will be released  |
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14th Apr 2021 1:50pm |
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| Japseroony Member Since: 02 Jan 2008 Location: North East England Posts: 807
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Have you looked at the SVA FF as literally everything is included and all extras are a NCO that you have to tick - even the factory tour/pick up is included (Covid permitting) and there are strong discounts on offer - I had one that I bought new and picked up from Solihul that has had an issue and between JLR and the dealer they are taking back off me but loved it to bits and IMHO its much better then the SVR
I did consider the V8 Defender but due to my wishing to take it off road to the Pyrenees and you can only go down to a 20" rim decided on the P400 that allows 19" rims and therefore a taller sidewall on the tyre  Gas, Grass Or Ass - Nobody Rides For Free
"UNDERSTEER" ----is when you hit the fence with the front of the car. "OVERSTEER" ------is when you hit the fence with the rear of the car. "HORSEPOWER" ----is how fast you hit the fence. "TORQUE" -----------is how far you take the fence with you. |
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14th Apr 2021 1:57pm |
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| LincsLR Member Since: 08 Mar 2021 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 27
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It does look like a great car, but at £145k it also just feels a bit toppy to me...it’s now firmly in the twilight of its life, with a completely new model replacing it in just a few months. If the new model achieves the same as the L405 did when it was launched, it will instantly age the L405. It’s right that it does of course, that’s progress, but at the same time it will be a real shame because compared to most, the FFRR still does look so good. Anyway, seriously off topic and probably going to get told off
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14th Apr 2021 4:14pm |
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| Japseroony Member Since: 02 Jan 2008 Location: North East England Posts: 807
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I know for certain a 10% discount is achievable if you were interested but yes the new one should be coming along at the end of the year, just not sure when the SVA will be available and at what price
Having had one I can honestly say it was a pleasure to drive and much more refined than the SVR with a more prestigious approach/drive Gas, Grass Or Ass - Nobody Rides For Free
"UNDERSTEER" ----is when you hit the fence with the front of the car. "OVERSTEER" ------is when you hit the fence with the rear of the car. "HORSEPOWER" ----is how fast you hit the fence. "TORQUE" -----------is how far you take the fence with you. |
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14th Apr 2021 4:47pm |
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| Griff90bowler Member Since: 24 Feb 2021 Location: Cowbridge Posts: 128 
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I was told by the dealer that my V8 defender has a 400 code of some sort against it which normally means a trip to SVO |
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14th Apr 2021 6:13pm |
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| montpellier Member Since: 27 Jul 2013 Location: uk Posts: 57 
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My build not confirmed end of June (110 ) , so expect others to start seeing cars in the next few weeks .
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20th May 2021 10:48pm |
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