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| camelman Member Since: 27 Feb 2013 Location: Peak District Posts: 3372  
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Obviously aimed at those trying to get around company car tax etc..
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-Defe...SwVopgG8b7  |
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24th Mar 2021 6:39pm |
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| Landy718 Member Since: 22 Mar 2021 Location: Brooklyn/Catskills Posts: 17  
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I'm not a brit, so this is very much over my head. Whats being done here?
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25th Mar 2021 1:26pm |
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| Landy718 Member Since: 22 Mar 2021 Location: Brooklyn/Catskills Posts: 17
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Ah got it. That's not a model type we have stateside, hence my confusion.
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25th Mar 2021 1:32pm |
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| Ryderoo Member Since: 28 Aug 2015 Location: South Oxfordshire Posts: 1666  
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Tax avoidance aside, I don’t know the implications with HMRC. I do know that some insurance companies will happily insure a rear seat converted commercial vehicle as long as you have a certificate of conformance from the manufacturer/installer..
Down the line, purchasing a second hand hard top as a private buyer you could have the choice of modifying your vehicle to carry passengers. Cheers Simon I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you 1990 110 TD5 county, my first Land Rover - gone 2012 Discovery 4 XS SDV6 - gone 2014 Discovery 4 XS SDV6 - gone 2015 Evoque SD4 dynamic - Wife’s - gone 2015 Urban Truck 90 XS Santorini Black Hard Top - Reluctantly gone 2020 Discovery 5 Eiger Grey 3.0 SE - gone March 24 2021 Defender S D250 Santorini Black 110 HT - gone March 24 2023 Evoque P300e SE wife’s current vehicle |
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25th Mar 2021 1:41pm |
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| camelman Member Since: 27 Feb 2013 Location: Peak District Posts: 3372
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If you run the hardtop as a company van, it attracts a benefit in kind of around £3500 per year so at 20% tax, you pay £700 a year extra tax. The business can also currently reclaim a 130% tax write off on the value of the vehicle if it's commercial as well as reclaiming all of the VAT.
If you ran the equivalent 5 seater (say a £60k 110), the benefit in kind is more like £20k. At best this would mean an extra £4k a year tax but might push you into higher tax bracket so £8k a year in additional tax. Additionally, the tax write off is much less favourable and the VAT can't be reclaimed on the car if there's any personal use allowed. Whilst unlikely, If tax man gets wind of your conversion to a 5 seater it would probably be an uncomfortable conversation 
I'm sure someone will post the link to the thread on a similar issue with VW combi's.... Last edited by camelman on 25th Mar 2021 10:01pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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25th Mar 2021 4:20pm |
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| Ryderoo Member Since: 28 Aug 2015 Location: South Oxfordshire Posts: 1666
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I’m sure Mr Taxman would want to add all the years of lost revenue plus VAT returned. Plus a fine and interest I suppose. Those £3k seats aren’t all that cheap after all. Cheers Simon I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you 1990 110 TD5 county, my first Land Rover - gone 2012 Discovery 4 XS SDV6 - gone 2014 Discovery 4 XS SDV6 - gone 2015 Evoque SD4 dynamic - Wife’s - gone 2015 Urban Truck 90 XS Santorini Black Hard Top - Reluctantly gone 2020 Discovery 5 Eiger Grey 3.0 SE - gone March 24 2021 Defender S D250 Santorini Black 110 HT - gone March 24 2023 Evoque P300e SE wife’s current vehicle |
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25th Mar 2021 5:47pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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I wonder if a variation on these would fit?
Click image to enlarge https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Taxi-Minibus-Bu...890.l49292 |
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26th Mar 2021 7:36am |
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| dontwakemeup Member Since: 28 Feb 2021 Location: Oz Posts: 55 
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Beware. All airbags and other restraint components are removed from the hardtop in the back.
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27th Mar 2021 6:11am |
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| astroarcadia Member Since: 12 Jun 2020 Location: Gloucestershire Posts: 49 |
Has anyone done this yet or can anyone reccomend a company that carries out these conversions.
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4th Aug 2021 4:10pm |
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| markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2638 
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Can’t you just throw in a mattress, get everyone to lay down and if stopped say you are a hearse…….
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4th Aug 2021 4:30pm |
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| astroarcadia Member Since: 12 Jun 2020 Location: Gloucestershire Posts: 49 |
Would be nice to have on occasion.
I can see two people doing this WCS in Whitney do a sort of half conversion. Seeker do a full conversion. |
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4th Aug 2021 4:47pm |
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