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Terryt

Member Since: 28 Jun 2012
Location: Lerryn. Cornwall.
Posts: 750

Some help needed or pointing in the right direction..

Evening all .. wondering if anyone can point me in the right direction.
2001 TD5 .. not started since last September.was awaiting a. New rear cross member ..long story ..
Anyway battery in today having replaced all the filters went trough the priming process all the right noises fuel pumping etc ..
At the end of the process went to start .. pop from under the seat and nothing no priming .. checking all the fuses under the drivers seat all ok . The second relay

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buzzes on Turing the ignition then stops .. no power no lights . Dash oil light etc come on but nothing else ..
Any help would really be appreciated
Thank you

18th Mar 2021 5:38pm

GREENI

Member Since: 22 Aug 2010
Location: staffs
Posts: 10383

I’m only guessing, but I’d swap the relay out. and or check all earths.

18th Mar 2021 6:15pm

jimbo55

Member Since: 15 Jul 2020
Location: Midlands
Posts: 400

As greeni says, look at the relays, take them out and test them to make sure they are operating correctly, you’ll probably find one is dead if it’s gone pop, relays do go especially if they are cheap ones and aren’t used for ages.

If the relays are all okay then check the earths,

Do you have ignition power and power to prime the fuel filter still? Or is it dead completely?

18th Mar 2021 6:59pm

Terryt

Member Since: 28 Jun 2012
Location: Lerryn. Cornwall.
Posts: 750

It was initially fine and primed ok however nothing now apart from very weak dash lights ...

18th Mar 2021 7:35pm

jimbo55

Member Since: 15 Jul 2020
Location: Midlands
Posts: 400

I’d be looking at the main relays then if you’ve got nothing at all

18th Mar 2021 8:18pm

ickle

Member Since: 22 Jul 2010
Location: South Vendee
Posts: 1804

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Alpine White

battery connections clean and tight?

18th Mar 2021 8:37pm

Terryt

Member Since: 28 Jun 2012
Location: Lerryn. Cornwall.
Posts: 750

Yes mate .. whole system initially primed ok but as soon as I turned it to start it didn’t

18th Mar 2021 9:02pm

Terryt

Member Since: 28 Jun 2012
Location: Lerryn. Cornwall.
Posts: 750

jimbo55 wrote:
I’d be looking at the main relays then if you’ve got nothing at all

Thank you

18th Mar 2021 9:02pm

Hufflepuff

Member Since: 25 Oct 2014
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 727

So its not even turning over? Check your earth strap on the gearbox maybe? 2005 Td5 90 XS
1989 V8 110 CSW

18th Mar 2021 9:31pm

Terryt

Member Since: 28 Jun 2012
Location: Lerryn. Cornwall.
Posts: 750

No like I said all initially went ok .. primed and all good . Turned the key to start .. pop from under the seat and all dead . Have dash lights as in oil etc .. however nothing else .. no hazards no lights

18th Mar 2021 9:40pm

landy andy

Member Since: 15 Feb 2009
Location: Ware, Herts
Posts: 5790

2006 Defender 110 Td5 USW Zermatt Silver

Have you physically checked if the fuses under the driver seat have power to them.

18th Mar 2021 11:06pm

MichaelE

Member Since: 18 Jan 2020
Location: Crawley West Sussex
Posts: 155

As already mentioned, check the cable from gearbox to battery -ve. Don't just look at it and yank it to see if it's tight. Remove, clean, refit. I had 6 weeks of misery trying to fix a similar fault - partial electrics and no start - outside in the eternal rain of autumn 2019 whenever I had the time and felt up to it. I left the wipers turned on whilst I crawled underneath trying connections and listening for the wipers to come back to life. The gearbox cable was as tight as. But when I bent the terminal a bit, wipers came alive. Bent it back, they stopped. Almost had tears of happiness mixing with the rain. I heard the same crack as you when it first died.

When I disconnected the cable for cleaning it looked ok and I would never have thought it could have been the problem but it certainly was.

19th Mar 2021 12:11am

Terryt

Member Since: 28 Jun 2012
Location: Lerryn. Cornwall.
Posts: 750

Thanks mate will do

19th Mar 2021 7:31am

Terryt

Member Since: 28 Jun 2012
Location: Lerryn. Cornwall.
Posts: 750

Just to thank everyone for the input on this .. problem solved .
Suffice to say the original battery was reading 12.9 so my assumption was that it was ok however slow to accept a charge of any sort . Checked the relays fuses and earth straps all good .
Ordered a new battery as that was the plan anyway.. fitted this morning and she fired up first go ..
thank you all ..
Case of knackerd battery it was dropping to 8.7 when the ignition key was turned ..

20th Mar 2021 9:47am

MichaelE

Member Since: 18 Jan 2020
Location: Crawley West Sussex
Posts: 155

And thank you for letting us know. It all adds to the font of knowledge. Or pit. Deep, dark, bottomless pit........

20th Mar 2021 10:49am

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