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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753  
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What the headline fails to mention is more important - that the price ceiling is also to be lowered to £35000 from £40000 reducing choice and really limiting buyers to so called “City Cars’” with less range
Grants to buy electric vehicles to be cut to £2,500 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56441639 Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come 2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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18th Mar 2021 10:08am |
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| SN Member Since: 29 Jun 2007 Location: SK6 Posts: 729 |
I doubt it. Thats a 50% reduction ISTR. Eventually the financial doping will end, probably some time after the 2030 date - which will get pushed out anyway.
Manufacturers will just have to get more-efficient/accept-narrower-margins going forward - the fact that the very same car in the US is priced 10's of percent lower than in the UK/Europe shows how much fat is in every vehicle that rolls off the production line. Steve N | 21MY Defender  | 08MY Discovery 3 (history) | 06MY Discovery 3 (ancient history) |
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18th Mar 2021 10:13am |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3407 
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They need to cut all grants and force manufacturers to lower their prices. 24MY 90 D250 HSE, Tasman Blue
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18th Mar 2021 7:33pm |
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| Zed Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: In the woods Posts: 3311  
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Limiting the ceiling at £35k could be a good move as many EV's start just above that so makers may be inclined to drop prices. Also folks buying a Taycan, Tesla S or GTron don't need hand-outs and will buy regardless. However lowering the grant again is a backwards move and shows real a lack of forward thinking, commitment and understanding by the government. They have chosen to lead the way in banning ICE vehicles and need to use more carrot and less stick. WARNING.
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18th Mar 2021 8:29pm |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3407
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I was never one for eating my veg, it’s going to take more than a carrot to get me into one
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18th Mar 2021 8:31pm |
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| Zed Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: In the woods Posts: 3311
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Ha! For folks of your persuasion they will tax you into submission. WARNING.
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18th Mar 2021 8:36pm |
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| 90 Dreamer Member Since: 13 Jul 2019 Location: Oop North Posts: 2165 
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Thankfully by the time I buy an EV then its because I'll be needing one of these.........
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Livewell-Jaunt-...3435727089  |
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18th Mar 2021 8:43pm |
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| Zed Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: In the woods Posts: 3311
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https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-car...-car-grant WARNING. This post may contain sarcasm. |
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30th Mar 2021 5:26pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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Don't see anything in the article with regard to specification?
Have BMW de~spec'd to hit the new target pricing or can it be taken at face value? |
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30th Mar 2021 5:31pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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What does a current PHEV from JLR actually do in real terms electric only mileage? It seems Merc are taking a long term view: "Mercedes-Benz has no plans to introduce shorter-range versions of any of its plug-in hybrid models in order to lower their entry prices. Chief operating officer Markus Schäfer said: “If you drive a plug-in [hybrid], the real fun starts at around 60 miles of electric range, because then it can be an almost emissions-free daily driver. Going to less than that will not be our strategy.” https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/confide...-blyth-and |
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30th Mar 2021 5:35pm |
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| Philip Member Since: 09 Mar 2018 Location: England Posts: 510
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About the average 20 miles, the newest German stuff like the 45e is more like 40 (13 kWh vs 24 kWh battery). Either way, the P400e only has 140 bhp of electric power (vs 110 in a BMW 45e), so it’s still only a trundling around thing when in EV mode.
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30th Mar 2021 6:04pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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I did a fag pack sum for the P400e, and given the size of the motor and the battery, if you could pull full power and drain the battery from 100% right down to 0%, the run time would be @ 7 minutes and 40 seconds.
I'm sure if you factor in real world variables there are some things that would both add time and reduce time: Add time ~ lighter right foot, regen braking. Reduce time ~ battery would cutoff well before 0%, use of lights and other ancillaries. Question is did I do my sums right? It reminds me of the Veyron, where it's supposed to only have a fuel tank that can last 12 mins at max speed. |
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30th Mar 2021 9:02pm |
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| Philip Member Since: 09 Mar 2018 Location: England Posts: 510
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They’re always going to be limited by the battery capacity - the 45e’s is huge by PHEV standards, but a Taycan Turbo S has nearly four times the kWh.
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30th Mar 2021 9:47pm |
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| keith Member Since: 15 Aug 2012 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 2214
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Tim. Iv just bought a Tesla and picking up tomorrow. Received my 2.5k discount only with hrs to spare. The cutoff date is 31st and car must be paid in full to receive this. The discount will cease to exist after the 31st. Keith |
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30th Mar 2021 10:22pm |
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