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Matt110



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Complexity doesn't refer to the vehicle itself being complex.

It refers to multiple variants of that vehicle with lots of different build variations and types.

The more buildable combinations you have, the more opportunities there are for quality problems that aren't caught in development.

When they say they're reducing complexity they mean commonisong platforms and parts in those platforms to allow fewer parts and improved quality as a result.
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Supacat



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I wish you were right but JLR are now doing the complete opposite... again.

They were moving to a single platform :


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But now instead of a single platform across all models, there will now be three:


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Are we concerned that Defender is not mentioned on the right hand side? 1995 Defender 110 CSW
1971 SIIA Lightweight
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I was reading about Skoda in the 80s. They had a customer retention rate of 84%. Anyone know the equivalent for Land Rover?
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Ramsay wrote:
Are we concerned that Defender is not mentioned on the right hand side?


No.

Those two on the MLA platform are just mentioned as they are the next major re~workings.


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"Jaguar Land Rover “Quality Issues” Acknowledged by CEO in Front of Investors"

"Gee, what took you so long?"

"On the earnings call, chief creative officer Gerry McGovern reassured investors that “we are reducing the complexity of our vehicles massively.” That’s a curious way of addressing quality and reliability, more so if you remember that Land Rover has added unwanted complexity to the Defender by switching from a simple ladder frame to a unibody. Looking at the bigger picture, going electric to the detriment of ICE is the only way forward."

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/jaguar-...57159.html
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Land Rover engineers spotted tested the 2030 less complex Defender...... Laughing

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Laughing
Looks fun.

Complies with LEZ and all planned new car emissions targets!
How long before they're compulsory? Whistle
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