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cyberhusky



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Is it safe to buy accessories from China ?
Hello

When checking this forum I saw someone installing sidesteps made in China to his Defender.

By clicking on the provided link I found this dealer on AliExpress

https://fr.aliexpress.com/store/group/For-...rt&g=y

So how good are these accessories? Safety and security wise?

I would like to install the rear hooks on my Defender Y21 resp. the side (lunch)box.

From the pictures of the site the side box seems to be the original box with the LR logo hidden. So I suppose the box the dealer sells will be of less quality. Though I suppose LR does produce the box in China as well. 22MY Defender 110 (actual) | 10MY Freelander 2 (history) | 15MY Discovery Sport HSE (history)
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GREENI



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Do it and let us know.....
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Simon Audi



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You mean the Tow Hooks behind rear bumper?

Buy the LR ones from your dealer or from Powerful UK or Britpart..

£37 a side from memory

Powerful is £95 inc postage and trim finishers.
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Go Beyond



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What could possibly go wrong ..... Rolling with laughter
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williamthedog



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They'll be made of that well known metal..... Chineseum, Lovely stuff. Rolling with laughter
Post #887126 22nd Feb 2021 4:41pm
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Simon Audi



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In true chinese fashion they will reduce the section from solid to nearly hollow with a .2mm wall thickness.

They will look OK, be light weight, but not very functional or long lasting when used...
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DonH2000



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Go Beyond wrote:
What could possibly go wrong ..... Rolling with laughter


Errr, everything!!! Cheers Don.
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DonH2000



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williamthedog wrote:
They'll be made of that well known metal..... Chineseum, Lovely stuff. Rolling with laughter


I believe Chedder Cheese is stronger than Chineseum...... Cheers Don.
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markb110



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England 2002 Defender 90 Td5 HT Epsom Green
Chinese R&D, Rip-off and Duplicate....... Laughing

A chocolate fire guard would put up more of a fight.

Even the certificate of conformity has ink that would run off in the rain........

Think of your own and others safety during a recovery, buy the best you can. Thumbs Up
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Pilgrimmick



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Remember that bubble wrap is filled with air in Whuhan! 80" 1948
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(Santana PS10 pick up)
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brucehun



Member Since: 04 Dec 2012
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You guys forget that most of your electronics,appliances etc. parts are made in China. ECU chips are made in China, iphones made in china etc.
Post #887293 23rd Feb 2021 2:09pm
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Simon Audi



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Yes - China has teh ability to make Great Stuff... In Highly regulated and controlled conditions.

Unfortunately many factories are not so good.

I have purchased $8M of equipment (machines) from China over the last 10 years... and if I had a choice would not do it again...

The pain of managing the suppliers who agree things to your face and revert to Chinese Standard after you leave is not worth the saving

Quality in general sucks....

Paintwork full of runs... Its painted... whats the issue...

Material thinner sections than agreed.... whats the issue...

Cables.. undersized... Chinese markings instead of CE and UL that was agreed...

I look after a factory there and we produce good quality items... because we control what we do... The issue is Chinese local factories... Chinese Management and Chinese Culture... Do it as low cost as possible...

Our Factory... Handrails on the stairs... Nice shinny stainless steel... looks great.. right size... but the material is like .2 / .3 wall section.... someone strong could easily crush it...

Walls painted... but they also paint the floors because they dont mask anything...


When you explain your not happy they agree.. but continue more the same... I ask them if their MB car came with runs on the door paint would they be happy.... may as well talk to yourself...


I stop there...

I have spent maybe 3 years in China the last 10 or so at our plant or buying equipment....
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Supacat



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Talking of things Chinese...

Car review: A symbol of Chinese supremacy, the MG5 EV Long Range is the most significant thing on wheels


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"This unprepossessing estate car is the most disruptive car on the market right now. You probably haven’t even heard of it, or seen one on the road, but the MG5 electric station wagon with its new long-range bigger battery pack is the cheapest electric car, per mile, you can buy.

The manufacturer claims that you can get 250 miles out of it, and that’s a plausible figure. Depending on how you drive and the temperature outdoors (cold weather does battery electric cars no favours), you could get easily more than 320 miles on gentler, lower-speed journeys, and count on at least 150 miles if you’re really caning it.

In the “exclusive” level of trim I tried you’ll get all the automation and connectivity you’d expect from a new family car, and all for about £28,000, probably less if you go to a broker. Plus a seven-year manufacturer’s warranty. It compares well, in those terms, with, say, the Fiat New 500 electric I wrote about last week, though the bambino is obviously far cuter and more fashionable than this slightly old-fashioned estate car. I mean, who builds estate cars these days? As it happens, MG will also sell you an SUV version of the model, the HS, if you’d prefer to be on-trend, but that’ll be another story."

More here... https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/m...09788.html
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Logannz



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I'd stay away from the tow hooks for obvious safety reasons, but otherwise I'd give it a try. I've seen some of the side steps and they looked identical to the factory ones.

A Chinese 4wd equipment supplier who I buy other parts from, lists a whole range of parts, steps, roof rack, arch extensions, mud flaps, front guard, snorkel, etc. I have a pdf some where. I have not seen the other products in person, but previous purchases from that supplier have been good quality. (Note I don't sell import or sell this Defender gear.)
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Hairy Dan



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A lot of the bolt on and stick on stuff that a lot of aftermarket suppliers in this country are supplying and fitting probably comes direct from China via either alliexpress or allibaba. I've bought a lot of other stuff (not for Land Rovers) from Alliexpress and never had a problem, you pay Alliexpress and the seller doesn't get paid until you confirm you have the item and a lot of times you get it quicker from China Thumbs Up Cheers Ian
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