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keef9t



Member Since: 13 Mar 2016
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Stornoway Grey
Update.

Not fitted the new VCV yet.

Reason - I gave the MAF and MAP sensors a good cleaning with Electrical Contact Cleaner along with an extra shot of Millers in the tank. Running very smooth at the moment.

So, for the time being I will leave things alone.
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jst



Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
Location: Taunton
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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
i have return of the lumpy idle. last time new MAF sorted it, but coincided with EGR program.

anyway its returned and is more evident when hot! any suggestions.

Plus where is the VCV please? Cheers

James
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Post #736583 24th Oct 2018 9:06pm
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Bluest



Member Since: 23 Apr 2016
Location: Lancashire
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
Vcv is on the back of the fuel pump. Think it has a grey connector to it. You can see it if you look under the inlet manifold. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
Post #736622 25th Oct 2018 7:47am
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williamthedog



Member Since: 29 Dec 2012
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2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 PU Tamar Blue
Held on with 2 cap head bolts, 5mm if I remember correctly. You can change without removing anything else. About a 30 minute job all going well. Remove the connector on the valve when you've undone the bolts, alot easier. Thumbs Up
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jst



Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
thank you both, much appreciated, am looking to remove it and see what the piston looks like, dont have the facilities for a relearn so hoping if new one goes in it will sort itself out. Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
Post #736678 25th Oct 2018 12:41pm
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Trussy047



Member Since: 17 Jul 2019
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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Zermatt Silver
Out of interest, how did you get on?
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keef9t



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Stornoway Grey
In my particular case, I replaced the VCV without the "learning". It ran fine afterwards and has done ever since. I never bothered to look at the old one for "scoring" etc.
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Trussy047



Member Since: 17 Jul 2019
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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Zermatt Silver
Happy days, I’m in the middle of replacing the glow plugs and inlet manifold and thought I may as well replace the VCV while I’ve got easy access. Hopefully, I’ll get away with it.
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custom90



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You don’t need any learning process with the VCV. Just swap over.
When I did mine last year, it did indeed have some scoring but was at least ten years old so can’t complain!
The new one was a quick fit and forget and is running lovely now. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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Minch90



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That’s a bit of a knuckle scraper that job, especially as I thought I’d use the new screws from PFJones, which were too long so had to remove and put the old ones back Laughing
Drives very differently straight away, valve looked original (not put 12v across it to see barrel), much more freely revving 👍 2.4TDCI 90 - everyday brilliance
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dazzling1611



Member Since: 08 Jun 2020
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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Bronze Green
ive just replaced the vcv because of huge amount of diesel smoke and engine knocking , found it was stuck open and was running at 500 bar at idle when i checked live data on the Autel.

It didnt change anything on start up with the engine still loads of smoke but the idle pressure back to normal now, 240 bar at idle, to cut a long story short , i found all four injectors had blown due to the high pressure and had replace all of them.

So if your experiencing rough idle and have high fuel pressure you need to replace the. vcv and check the injectors .

I did a relearn on the vcv after it had idled and warmed to to check the difference.
Post #885168 13th Feb 2021 8:09am
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