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MussEd



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Grill surround trim - screw holes?
My project to give my front end a face lift continues at almost glacial pace. Various bits wending their way slowly to my door and as I wait patiently for every courier van to gingerly inch up my frozen street I got to thinking about the six screw holes on either side of the front surround panel.

I’ve seen people spray the fir tree clips that are used to fill in the screw holes and others mention filling them and painting over. Was just wondering what I would use to fill these in? My bodywork prep skills/knowledge aren’t at the level of others on here so please forgive me if it’s an obvious question...search function hasn’t help me in this regard may I add...
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I've recently filled old light guard holes by bonding on small patched of aluminium (old sill panel!) behind the hole with JB Weld. Then with a wet finger I smooth over the bit that squeezes through, sand down once dry and jobs a good'un. Can post pics if needed. Instagram: l90andy

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hank



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The bodyshop who did mine look to have splodged some filler through the hole. Has held up fine for 18 months now


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blackwolf



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L90Andy wrote:
I've recently filled old light guard holes by bonding on small patched of aluminium (old sill panel!) behind the hole with JB Weld. Then with a wet finger I smooth over the bit that squeezes through, sand down once dry and jobs a good'un. Can post pics if needed.


This ^^.

I have patched many unwanted holes of various sizes in LR bodywork over the years by the following method:

  1. Roughen the back surface slightly with some medium emery or wet and dry
  2. Feather the edges of the hole on the face of the panel so that they are not sharp
  3. Cut a patch of thin aluminium (or piece of a scrap panel if you have one) to fit comfortably over the hole on the rear and roughen the patch in the same way as step 1.
  4. Bond the patch over the hole. Traditionally I have used a well-known two-part epoxy for this, using moderate heat from a hot-air gun to make the epoxy runny and to make it cure to touch in a matter of minutes.
  5. Once the epoxy has fully cured, sand the surface and fill with filler as required.
  6. Finally sand smooth and paint just as you would for any body repair.

This method is quicker than it sounds and has served me well, and there are places on my S1s where I can remember filling holes but can only see them from the back now. There may be better adhesives now of course, possibly a bespoke panel adhesive (although I suspect that these remain slightly flexible which you wouldn't want), although some of my repairs are over 40 years old and the Araldite is still as good as new.

I have exactly the same job to do as the OP on a grille panel, I want to fill the holes so that I can fit a genuine SIII V8 grille to it, it's been on the "to do" list for at least 5 years now!

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MussEd



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^^^That sounds just the job. Thanks
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Oldowner



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The proper way to fix holes - this one was bimetallic rot from the inside from the tub stay. Five minute job if you have the know how.


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Co1



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Oldowner wrote:
The proper way to fix holes - this one was bimetallic rot from the inside from the tub stay. Five minute job if you have the know how.


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Pretty sure the holes in question are on a plastic panel aren’t they?
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gcc130



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Yes, genuine panel is fibreglass I think.
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blackwolf



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Not sure about the bulbous a/c panel (polymer, I think), but the non-a/c panel is alloy.

^^^ Not everyone has a TIG welder!
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90 Dreamer



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Puma AC surround is plastic and I simply got the bodyshop to fill and colour match mine.....



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