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Co1

Member Since: 19 Aug 2018
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Grenadier wrote:
^^^ Just working my right quad. Want it to look awesome.

3rd Jan 2021 1:19pm

Bluest

Member Since: 23 Apr 2016
Location: Lancashire
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2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black

Grenadier wrote:
OK, ignoring Britpart and Allmakes, we have Lucas at £28 and Genuine LR at £52. Skip, your thread implied that the part is made by Lucas, so would the 'genuine' LR and Lucas be one and the same? Note, they look different in the photos I've seen. If they are different, would we trust Genuine LR over Lucas? Price not an issue, getting the best part is.

From Lucas’ own website. Looks like it is primarily a licensed brand, so who knows what you are getting ...

2000s
The noughties was an eventful decade for Lucas. In 2003 the decision was made by TRW to license the Lucas brand to specialist licensees who could continue the development and investment of the Lucas programs.
At this time Lucas has been trading continuously for over 125 years and is world famous as a supplier of premium quality, technically excellent automotive and motorcycle products for both vehicle manufacturers and the aftermarket.

2010s
Today Lucas continues to grow in these channels while dynamically expanding into new markets with new products. Lucas is a thriving global brand with a strategic network of Lucas businesses, head licensees and distributors together contributing to worldwide sales of over $100 million. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS

3rd Jan 2021 1:22pm

Leamreject

Member Since: 19 Dec 2020
Location: Middle Earth - Leamington Spa
Posts: 970

All much of the same even Bosch branded products can be made by overlap manufacturers, personally I would avoid anything from China unless it’s a recognised quality brand. Even then it can be fake

Ride like you stole it!!
If I’m not on a bike it’s because only a 4x4 will do…
2011 2.4 Puma 90 HT

3rd Jan 2021 1:22pm

shropshiredefender

Member Since: 05 Jun 2017
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 834

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black

Unfortunately the Lucas brand is no longer a guarantee of quality. Lucas went bust years ago taking their pension provisions with them. Just because you're offended doesn't mean you're right.

3rd Jan 2021 1:25pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17389

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

I'm not sure that Lucas was ever actually a guarantee of quality! Its global reputation has never been great.

3rd Jan 2021 1:55pm

X4SKP

Member Since: 29 Nov 2013
Location: Berkshire
Posts: 2295

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey

Grenadier wrote:
Skip, your thread implied that the part is made by Lucas, so would the 'genuine' LR and Lucas be one and the same?:

This the one I fitted, it looked / matched exactly the old one off a 2.4 MY2011 it had LUCUS moulded into the rear.

I was so pleased to finally get an intermittent non-starting problem solved that after a few months and
certainty this was my cause I bought another one (which of course I'll hopefully never need

https://www.lrdirect.com/LR039638-supplied...LUCAS.html

Good Luck... SKIP
https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic83242.html

3rd Jan 2021 1:58pm

Badger110

Member Since: 06 Feb 2018
Location: South hams
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2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Buckingham Blue

If you buy a lucas and it's in a red box, good luck with where it came from

If you buy a lucas and it's in a green box, it's genuine old stock.

I second the ignition switch issue, it can throw up all sorts of issues which you never feel are related to it.

Sometimes you can get away witjh just replacing the end cap with the terminals on

https://bearmach.com/ignition-switch-prc82...ceEALw_wcB

you will need new shear bolts though

3rd Jan 2021 2:21pm

Grenadier

Member Since: 23 Jul 2014
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2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Corris Grey

Chucked in a new Varta Start-Stop battery and ‘boom’ everything working tickety-boo. I think the cold was making what seemed to be the original battery, (80k miles/ten years). play silly b*ggers. Hence the erratic starts. No need for new starter now.

Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey

8th Jan 2021 5:28pm

Julie

Member Since: 07 Oct 2017
Location: Nantes
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2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Keswick Green

Re: Odd starting problem - 2.4tdci

Grenadier wrote:
But with the immediate restart showing no mechanical effort whatsoever, I'm thinking electrical rather than fuelling, although all lights and ancils seem to work fine.

Since PbSb battery packs have been replaced by PbCa, battery failure anounces differently.

Checking the tension is always a good idea

8th Jan 2021 9:58pm

Grenadier

Member Since: 23 Jul 2014
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Agreed Julie. I eventually found my tester and the battery was way under 50%. With the cold it was just a disaster. All good now.

Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey

9th Jan 2021 8:30am

Grenadier

Member Since: 23 Jul 2014
Location: The foot of Mont Blanc...
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Update - back to square one.

Well, it seems I was a little over enthusiastic. We’re back to square one. New battery was down to under 50% within a couple of days. Indeed it was clearly draining even earlier, as the day after it was fitted and I announced all was fine, it fired in the morning but then on a visit to various shops, with a bit of stop-start, it had one single failed turn-over, before continuing normally. By the following morning, nada. As previously described, light cluster comes on, glow plug eventually goes out and then, on turning the key, I hear just two turn overs before it cuts out. Light cluster stays lit (and relights if I turn the car off and on again immediately), but there is no power to the starter. If I wait a minute, power resumes to the starter and it does the turn over thing again.

So, Just recharged the battery overnight and still not working. Still turning the starter twice, then stopping. I’m going to buy a multimeter, but I’m wondering what could be draining the battery? Could it be the starter itself? What should I be testing? I’m not electrically minded, so rarely mess around with wiring. As a heads up, the only electrics I’ve touched in the last few weeks have been new LED headlights, (but fitted since the problem first started), repairing a faulty LED reverse light, done before the problem started. Some months ago I started noticing feedback through my tweeters, so I also unplugged and then replugged/fitted my headset, not sure if that could be creating any kind of drain.

The problem has been worst over the past 10 days, which has also tied in with sub-zero conditions. I know this affects batteries, but given I’ve added a new one, that can’t be it.

So, why’s the battery draining?
What should I check for?
I’ve heard of problems with the mega fuse
Do we think this sounds like the starter is dead, and it is draining the battery?

Etc etc etc

Thanks as always

Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey

12th Jan 2021 8:22am

Grenadier

Member Since: 23 Jul 2014
Location: The foot of Mont Blanc...
Posts: 5818

ALL SORTED

Culprit was the 5€ battery affecting the PI. New one in, now works like a dream.

I’d like to claim supreme intelligence for this discovery, but actually it was reading endless threads that led me to a single line in a post by a Guardian Angel. Otherwise known as Blackwolf.

We’ll see if this ‘perfect starter’ remains the case tomorrow .

Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey

12th Jan 2021 3:28pm

hank

Member Since: 12 Sep 2016
Location: South Wales
Posts: 2300

You've been through the mill on this one! Fingers crossed! > 110 XS Double Cab

12th Jan 2021 4:38pm

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