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| LR90XS2011 Member Since: 05 Apr 2011 Location: bickenhill Posts: 3643   
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for some reason watching the video made me smile,
Note the comment about driving up a mountain DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS, I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy |
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1st Jan 2021 8:08am |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5829  
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^^^ Me too, but not enough to follow the angry little man on FB. God he likes himself, doesn't he? But you can't fault his assessment of what people want from the new Defender, 'we don't want to drive up a mountain, we want a car to look good', which must make Gerry McG supremely happy. He's all about style over substance despite the clear abilities of this new Defender to drive like a Range Rover. This video is the target market of the New Def nailed in six minutes. Minus the tattoos but adding some kids on a school run. Bought, like he has, without any idea of what it does, purely for use in the urban jungle. Yet another pimpable SUV. What a shame. Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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1st Jan 2021 8:29am |
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| JOW240725 Member Since: 04 May 2015 Location: Suffolk Posts: 7906 
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Urban carry some serious stock!! Good to see them doing well. James
MY2012 110 2.2TDCi XS SW Orkney Grey - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic43410.html MY1990 110 200TDi SW beautifully faded Portofino Red - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post743641.html#743641 MY1984 90 V8 Slate Grey - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post744557.html#744557 Instagram @suffolk_rovers |
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1st Jan 2021 11:50am |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753 
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Why are you surprised that the new one is being “pimped”? Lots of the previous Defender were used by this sort of person who took them to Urban, Kahn, Overfinch or Chelsea Tractor to be bejazzled and upgraded with dubious taste. Same with Range Rovers and Discoveries, about the only Land Rovers currently in production that don’t seem to get much modifying are the Discovery Sport and Evoque. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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1st Jan 2021 7:53pm |
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| Chawks Member Since: 19 Feb 2017 Location: Dorset Posts: 121
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In no way shape or form a celebrity. I first saw a video of him on YouTube a few years ago and it was filmed by himself protesting that the Police are harassing him, acting illegally blah blah blah. Arrogant doesn't even come close! Although to his credit he's clearly made a lot of money from business rather than continuing the thug doorman career path.
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2nd Jan 2021 8:32am |
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| Ellisboy Member Since: 13 Oct 2013 Location: Deep South Posts: 539 
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I think he’s as pointless as the new defender
Stephen. |
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2nd Jan 2021 9:41am |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5829
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I'm not surprised, at all. It falls into the same category as RRs and Discos. Large SUV. And whilst previous Defenders were pimped, it was in tiny numbers for fashionistas, whilst this will see a lot lot more attention. It is a pimper's dream. Just look how many are sitting in Urban's garage. No doubt there will be people pimping the new Grenadier, but in what numbers/percentages? Tiny I'd suspect, certainly relative to the New Def. Chalk and cheese owners. And whilst this fellow has gone down the Urban route for some snazzy wheels and new bonnet lettering, aside from that the car doesn't look any different to what it would have looked like rolling off the assembly line or the many others that will follow it. To me it just amplifies why this car was designed and who it was aimed at. You Tim, I'm sure are not what Gerry McG and team were thinking of when creating this car. They had to make it off road capable (exceptional) to give some credence to its Defender heritage, but in every other regard it's a wealthy person's SUV. There's little utilitarian about it. It has no semblance to the old Defender. For example, what does this describe: A vehicle that is capable on road; a vehicle that is very capable off road; a vehicle that has a comfortable, spacious, yet practical and hard wearing interior and nice balance of creature comforts; a vehicle that can swallow 7; a vehicle that nods to the Defender and the Range Rover but which is more comoftable than one, less than the other, better off road than one, but less than the other, more expensive than one, but cheaper than the other; a car which is a happy, more comfortable, sensibly priced medium between the original Defender and the Range Rover. That could be the New Defender, but I would strongly suggest it was also the template set by JLR for the original Disco 1. I have nothing against this vehicle, just its name and its 'purpose' which to me do not follow the heritage or line of the Defender/Series. Disco, most certainly and it would have been an exceptional addition that would sell like hot cakes. But why did we need a 9th SUV from JLR? Why couldn't they have kept just one, original, work horse like Ineos are creating. Just what we on this forum own, done better. It was absolutely possible, absolutely within their power/experience/history, it could and should have been done. The new Defender could have been the Grenadier. Instead the new Defender stole the Disco format and just to please Gerry. No other reason for it, he couldn't accept having something genuinely utilitarian tied to 'his' image, nothing more than that. I reiterate, I don't dislike the vehicle per se, indeed if I needed a Disco style vehicle it would be a very strong contender, but I'd be changing the bonnet lettering to Discovery as soon as I collected it. I still don't think it is too late for them to do it, Call this the Discovery and call the current Disco the Discovery Urban or something. Or call this the Defender Urban and then create a Grenadier which they call the Defender Heritage etc etc. Never happen though, Not now that Gerry has taken over design for the whole of JLR. Entirely my view of course. Monsieur Le Grenadier I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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2nd Jan 2021 10:16am |
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| GreenMonster Member Since: 30 Sep 2020 Location: Virginia Posts: 77 
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Lindsey Vonn. Even you knumbskulls must have heard of her. https://www.instagram.com/p/CJWriW2niRu/?hl=en[/url]
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2nd Jan 2021 9:17pm |
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| Simon Audi Member Since: 19 Nov 2020 Location: Newport Posts: 544
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NOPE....
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2nd Jan 2021 10:18pm |
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| DSL Member Since: 20 Aug 2007 Location: Wandering the wasteland. Posts: 837
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Me neither.
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2nd Jan 2021 10:19pm |
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| Fat Cog Member Since: 19 Mar 2012 Location: Oxfordshire & Devon Posts: 502 
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Mental...
Adjective of or relating to the mind mental powers; mental suffering of, relating to, or affected by a disorder of the mind a mental patient; mental illness providing care for persons with disordered minds, emotions, etc a mental hospital performed by or existing in the mind: Sums it all up really... A random photo of my Land Rover buddies...not a celebrity amongst them & as for 'image is everything'...well I think the photo speaks for itself!!! I think I prefer the Land Rover world as portrayed in my photo rather than all this celebrity, image, self-promotion, high 5'ing, pimped-up  .
 Click image to enlarge Since 1973...S1, Air Portable's, Defender's, but only my Wolf TUL HS GS remains Last edited by Fat Cog on 10th Jan 2021 12:25pm. Edited 2 times in total |
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2nd Jan 2021 10:21pm |
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| Zed Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: In the woods Posts: 3312 
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Vonn was one of the greatest downhill skiers of all time but isn't she sponsored by Land Rover? I know they sponsor the current US ski and snowboard teams. WARNING. This post may contain sarcasm. |
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2nd Jan 2021 11:36pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20444
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Fat Cog - Agree, 110% with your last sentence there.
No Guts, No Glory.
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2nd Jan 2021 11:47pm |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5829
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Alpine Skiing’s not big in the UK Green Monster. Those who do ski/follow skiing will have heard of her of course, absolute legend.  Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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3rd Jan 2021 9:32am |
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