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90 Dreamer



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see LR have provided some support vehicles for the Prodrive / BRX Dakar bid.............

https://twitter.com/prodrive/status/1341690251216039936
Post #874321 23rd Dec 2020 10:35am
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Tim in Scotland



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I hope that they have inhibited the low tyre pressure warning alarm for when the drivers air down the tyres for sand driving otherwise the drivers will soon get cheesed off by the recurring alarms that a tyre pressure is too low! Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
Post #874324 23rd Dec 2020 11:08am
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blackwolf



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Retroanaconda wrote:
A reversing light is a warning to other drivers, they’re not designed to light up where you’re going.
...


Where did you get this novel idea?

Reversing lights are intended to allow you to see where you are going whilst reversing. There are many vehicles on the road which have absolutely no legal requirement for reversing lights at all and they are still allowed to reverse. It may be the case that in this era of catering for morons they serve a double purpose, but providing a warning is not their primary function. There is no more legal requirement (with a few exceptions, such as HGVs) to provide a warning that you are about to drive backwards than you are about to drive forwards.

Kevantlin wrote:
The powerful Uk reverse kit looks very good. How would the dealership take it though ?

Would it put the validity of the warranty in question ?


Warranties are not as fragile as some on this forum seem to think. If you plug something aftermarket into you harness and the harness subsequently melts, you will have a problem. If you plug something into you harness and a wheel-bearing fails, then there is unlikely to be any question of the warranty being affected. There is, mercifully, still an element of common sense involved, and there has to be some demonstrable cause and effect for the invalidation of a warranty to be legally sustainable. You're more likely to invalidate your insurance than your warranty.
Post #874334 23rd Dec 2020 12:21pm
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Retroanaconda



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Well I’ve not yet found a vehicle with reversing lights that achieve that aim, they are universally crap at illuminating the way behind you.
Post #874335 23rd Dec 2020 12:26pm
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blackwolf



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I agree, but that is a problem with the design of them. It doesn't help that for decades they have been limited by law to a maximum of two lights each of 21 Watts.
Post #874340 23rd Dec 2020 12:47pm
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Supacat



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Bahrain Raid Xtreme (@BRaidXtreme) Tweeted:
Taking on the @Dakar requires a support team that can go above and beyond...

@LandRover will be working with the #BRX team behind the team, providing vital support vehicles for @SebastienLoeb, @NaniRoma and the team.

#Dakar2021 https://t.co/d8MgfMIebg https://twitter.com/BRaidXtreme/status/1341451762964844545?s=20
Post #874349 23rd Dec 2020 1:15pm
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Tim in Scotland



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Anyone for Matte Scarlett Red?
This was posted on another forum yesterday - didn’t say what the shade was other than it’s the corporate colour scheme for the owner’s business....

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 Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
Post #874508 24th Dec 2020 11:25am
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Tim in Scotland



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Or even this red and white 90 hard top


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 Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
Post #874510 24th Dec 2020 12:22pm
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90 Dreamer



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More likely to see that later...... Mr. Green
Post #874524 24th Dec 2020 2:02pm
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Telemarkskier



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blackwolf wrote:
Retroanaconda wrote:
A reversing light is a warning to other drivers, they’re not designed to light up where you’re going.
...


Where did you get this novel idea?

Reversing lights are intended to allow you to see where you are going whilst reversing. There are many vehicles on the road which have absolutely no legal requirement for reversing lights at all and they are still allowed to reverse. It may be the case that in this era of catering for morons they serve a double purpose, but providing a warning is not their primary function. There is no more legal requirement (with a few exceptions, such as HGVs) to provide a warning that you are about to drive backwards than you are about to drive forwards.

Kevantlin wrote:
The powerful Uk reverse kit looks very good. How would the dealership take it though ?

Would it put the validity of the warranty in question ?





Warranties are not as fragile as some on this forum seem to think. If you plug something aftermarket into you harness and the harness subsequently melts, you will have a problem. If you plug something into you harness and a wheel-bearing fails, then there is unlikely to be any question of the warranty being affected. There is, mercifully, still an element of common sense involved, and there has to be some demonstrable cause and effect for the invalidation of a warranty to be legally sustainable. You're more likely to invalidate your insurance than your warranty.


As I was getting tow loops and full fat mud flaps fitted by a dealership requiring rear bumper removal, I asked if they would fit the Powerful UK reversing lights at the same time. I even volunteered to pay their extortionate labour cost. They flatly refused to fit them citing warranty and said come back in 3 years time. Once the reversing lights are back in stock its DIY time though I need to get some trim tools first. 2020 Defender 110 SE 240D: Fuji White.
2011 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE
2007 Freelander2 HSE (man)
Post #874540 24th Dec 2020 4:26pm
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blackwolf



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It's probably an easier approach to making the customer go away than simply refusing, or admitting that their insurance won't allow them to fit non-standard parts. If they drill a hole in your wing following the instructions supplied with the after-market kit, they will be liable.
Post #874542 24th Dec 2020 4:53pm
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AndrewS



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My dealers have installed loads of stuff that were not LR parts onto my cars. I dont get this issue some dealers and people have with warranty. 130's have feeling's as well you know Smile
Post #874559 24th Dec 2020 7:29pm
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mse



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Dealers were told not to do this years ago...that’s why most don’t.

Also a number of dealers don’t have the skills outside training in my opinion Mike
Post #874563 24th Dec 2020 7:35pm
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RDR



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my dealer was great with aftermarket modifications on cars under warranty until they were taken over by Farnell now they wont have anything to do with it. My first run in was troubleshooting the Start Stop on a D4 under warranty. They called me saying they can't start their diagnosis as I had a Speed camera alarm wired in, it was literally wired into a fuse jumper which they point blank refused to unplug. I rocked up pulled the fuse and told them to crack on. 110 MY23.5 X Dynamic HSE
RR MY23 HSE PHEV
D5 MY19 HSE - Now Sold
D4 MY16 HSE Luxury - Now Sold
D4 MY12 HSE - Gone
D3 MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
Post #874567 24th Dec 2020 7:51pm
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keith



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“Dad, is that the new defender over there” “ yep, you wanna trade yours in “
“No way dad, everywhere we go will be like driving in a giant training shoe”
Hmmmm ! Rolling with laughter



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