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| LRSpain004 Member Since: 30 Jun 2020 Location: Elche Posts: 68  
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In addition to the TFL 110 this reader from Utah has a similar problem with a 110. It seems even LR can't fix their own cars.... https://tflcar.com/2020/12/land-rover-defender-car-stories/
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18th Dec 2020 11:55am |
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| Rosco Member Since: 03 Dec 2010 Location: Burntwood Posts: 1833  
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Interesting comment Mark, and I mean that in a totally good way.
I work for a procurement department in the housing/construction market and everything is now benchmarked against the Amazon experience, but in truth I dont think any large scale business has realised how surpassed theyve been by a (what would have been termed in the analogue world) brass plater. Theyve introduced the consumer to a whole new world of expectation and very very few can get anywhere near it 2007 - Stornoway Grey 90 XS SW - Gone 2002 - Black Discovery II - Gone 2014 - Montalcino Red 110 XS SW |
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18th Dec 2020 6:48pm |
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| markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2643  
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18th Dec 2020 9:20pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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Interesting story. Told by a JLR tech to Lemon Law it and doesn't know what to do?
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19th Dec 2020 6:51am |
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| milesr3 Member Since: 12 Feb 2013 Location: Suffolk Posts: 873 
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The bit about a JLR Tech having to write a software patch for this specific vehicle is scary. Firstly for it being released with software that has critical defects. Secondly because these defects appear to be unresolved.
I saw something from JLR about the number of lines of code in all the different sub-assemblies, each from different (outsourced) suppliers and it looked like a systems integration test nightmare. |
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19th Dec 2020 10:05am |
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| camelman Member Since: 27 Feb 2013 Location: Peak District Posts: 3373
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A system test nightmare whilst you're barreling along the motorway with your kids in the back relying on it...
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19th Dec 2020 12:55pm |
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| RDR Member Since: 27 Apr 2018 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 592
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I can't believe they are writing a specific patch for that car. It would be mental to do such a thing, managing specific car software versions would be insane. must be some artistic licence on the actual solution there, maybe a software patch being delivered for that model and specification not that individual car. 110 MY23.5 X Dynamic HSE
RR MY23 HSE PHEV D5 MY19 HSE - Now Sold D4 MY16 HSE Luxury - Now Sold D4 MY12 HSE - Gone D3 MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten |
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19th Dec 2020 1:29pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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It sounds more like a thing a dealer customer service manager would make up and tell an angry/frustrated new owner to try and show someone was going the extra mile to help them. If true it would concern me.
I've also seen postings on social media from third party IT consultants involved in writing programmes /code for SOTA, who are now no longer involved in the projects and don't appear to have handed over the projects to anyone in the company with the requisite expertise to understand what they have actually done. It seems Change Management is not what it is in safety critical industries, after all barrelling down the MWay at 70mph plus with a car load of your family is an inheritantly safe activity... |
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20th Dec 2020 6:49am |
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| milesr3 Member Since: 12 Feb 2013 Location: Suffolk Posts: 873
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Just watching TFL’s latest video where they are getting repeated low coolant warnings (and a suspension fault). WTAF?
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20th Dec 2020 4:26pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753 
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Low coolant warning seems to a fairly common fault on USA market P400’s judging by posts on another forum. No loss of coolant/ leaks are reported so sounds like maybe a software issue. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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20th Dec 2020 5:15pm |
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| markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2643
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Good job JLR tested the vehicle over 1 million miles.......how many Defenders was that over again, and how many were actually tested outside of a test jig.....
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20th Dec 2020 5:47pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Wasn't there a TSB for a revised clip/fixing on a previous JLR model that used to do this? The sensor ws not secured properly and used to move around in the tank and give false readings.
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20th Dec 2020 7:59pm |
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| Simon Audi Member Since: 19 Nov 2020 Location: Newport Posts: 544
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That was the Defender...
Temporary fix was a Cable Tie.. |
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20th Dec 2020 8:03pm |
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| zilch Member Since: 11 Sep 2019 Location: Whitsundays & Sydney Posts: 820 
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L320 RRS's had problems with porous floats and sensors for a while, remember the posts from the rrsport.co.uk site
Martin runs as well yet another pommie bar steward down under MY20 110 P400 SE Defender MY10 3.0 RR Sport |
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20th Dec 2020 10:45pm |
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