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| Simon Audi Member Since: 19 Nov 2020 Location: Newport Posts: 544  
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It is underneath the polystyrene
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16th Dec 2020 6:51pm |
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| Simon Audi Member Since: 19 Nov 2020 Location: Newport Posts: 544
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Have a look at this - talking about the hardtop - but at around 10.30 to 11.30 it talks about (briefly) the MHEV - and says it aids acceleration as well as uses it for start stop.
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17th Dec 2020 8:23am |
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| Julep Member Since: 07 Nov 2020 Location: Jersey Posts: 25 
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it sure was. 
I didn't want to pull at it last night as it is hooked under the trim on the LHS. Just taken it off and there it is. From the pictures you had, it really looked like the system was filling the space, hence why I was skeptical it would be there. But it sits a good 8 inches below the cover level.  Click image to enlarge There is so much potential storage space in there, I can't wait to hear if we can retro fit the new hardtop boot container. Now I may have to blame my location  with max speed limit of 40mph and lots of very short journeys, this system may go the same way as DPFs do over here and end up being more of an expensive hindrance than any eco benefit. 110 County Station Wagon V8
Freelander Sport Td4 Discovery 4 XS TDV6 Defender X 110 P400 |
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17th Dec 2020 11:37am |
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| Simon Audi Member Since: 19 Nov 2020 Location: Newport Posts: 544
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Great
So when you ordering the Hard Top Boot kit to test from your dealer? It should fit as the MHEV is possible on the D300 MHEV Hard Top... Be interesting to see the costs... anyone have access to the Microfinch type system..? |
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17th Dec 2020 12:03pm |
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| lohr500 Member Since: 14 Sep 2014 Location: Skipton Posts: 1325 
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Am I missing something with this MHEV technology? It seems like an awful lot of complexity to achieve such a small benefit.
Is it all about getting a marginal improvement in the fuel economy figures at the expense of longer term reliability and maintenance costs? |
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17th Dec 2020 2:55pm |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3425 
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It’s all just a tick box exercise.
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17th Dec 2020 3:35pm |
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| Simon Audi Member Since: 19 Nov 2020 Location: Newport Posts: 544
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All manufacturers have to reduce emmisions to meet targets on their average vehicle sales... further from target.. bigger the fine..
So yes basically its to help reduce emmissions |
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17th Dec 2020 3:37pm |
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| Simon Audi Member Since: 19 Nov 2020 Location: Newport Posts: 544
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I know this is the Petrol P400 version - but assume (Ass U Me) that Diesel is same - except the Supercharger?
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18th Dec 2020 6:39am |
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| lohr500 Member Since: 14 Sep 2014 Location: Skipton Posts: 1325
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So much more to go wrong and no doubt expensive to fix once the vehicles are out of warranty.
The antithesis of what Land Rover used to be known for. I can't help but think the long term environmental impact from this new generation of vehicles will be a lot worse than the older vehicles. And I'm not just talking about JLR. All the vehicle manufacturers are adding more and more complexity which will surely result in earlier scrappage of vehicles because they ultimately become beyond economic repair. It seems as though the modern vehicle is just another throw away consumable |
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18th Dec 2020 10:04am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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JLR used to boast that 75% of all Land Rovers built were still on the road - I wonder if you looked at just Speth generation onwards when the opposite will become true and only 25% of them will still be on the road...
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18th Dec 2020 10:41am |
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| Philip Member Since: 09 Mar 2018 Location: England Posts: 510
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Regulations mean there’s no avoiding it; cars are becoming white goods with finite lifetimes and ownership models are changing to reflect that.
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18th Dec 2020 11:02am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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The regulations in this case, apply to the manufacturer not all vehicles individually. Other manufacturers have chosen from a range of options to comply ~ full BEV models to offset, pooling with other manufacturers, buying credits from the likes of Tesla, even withdrawing certain models.
It seems the JLR option is the one that puts more risk on the owner. This tech is not going to be around long term and that's got to have influenced the amount of resources that have gone onto developing it. It's interesting to read about VW's defence in the Dieselgate scandal. They had been arguing the devices were there to protect the engines, with the court rejecting "the idea that the device was justified because it contributed to preventing the engine from ageing or clogging up." https://cardealermagazine.co.uk/publish/to...dal/211224 |
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18th Dec 2020 1:24pm |
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| Philip Member Since: 09 Mar 2018 Location: England Posts: 510
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They have a BEV, they (now) have more hybrids, the MLA platform provides for both, they’ve put £90m aside for the ridiculous fines. 48V mild hybrids have become very common - it’s certainly not a JLR thing.
The real story is that only the largest legacy brands can afford to throw the necessary billions at the issue quickly enough (surely not something to whip the smaller cos with, because it’s inevitably going to lead to further homogenisation). |
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18th Dec 2020 1:34pm |
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