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Rob A

Member Since: 06 Feb 2009
Location: Sao Paulo
Posts: 29

2008 Defender 130 Puma 2.4 HCPU Alpine White

Overlanding with the Puma

I am preparing for an overland trip here in Brazil and would like to know if anyone has already been away for a long trip with their new Puma Defender.If so, how did it go, any problems, things to look out for? My biggest concern is with the ECU. Previously, I have travelled with a 110 Tdi and I have no idea what to expect from the new electronics with the Puma. All info very welcome. 130 HCPU 2.4TDCi
110 300TDi

20th Mar 2009 7:30pm

AndrewS

Member Since: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Hereford
Posts: 3707

2013 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 SW Rimini Red

Take a spare vacuum pump.

20th Mar 2009 7:39pm

MK

Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: Santiago
Posts: 2395

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White

That is right, but take the new model with double o-ring seals. I think at the end of the part number there is an X
I would also recommend spare UJ`s.

Good luck Puma 110" SW

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20th Mar 2009 8:05pm

mse

Member Since: 06 Apr 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 5034

2016 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Scotia Grey

Are the new ones prone to failure to?

Ive had a new one on mine and thought thats it. Mike

20th Mar 2009 8:51pm

dm_td5

Member Since: 20 Jul 2008
Location: Arnhem Land
Posts: 609

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Zermatt Silver

Spare vacuum pump, UJ's, wheel bearing kit (though with the staked nut set up it will be a pain, but I believe they can be replaced by the old style lock nut and tab washer), air filter, spare sump plug, couple of spare wheel nuts (I've replaced my lock nuts and carry these as spares).

Going through this same list myself at present. I'm disinclined to just replace the vac pump with a new one as I've heard tails of the replacement failing. What I can't find out is if that replacement was a double sealed unit or simply stock of the same one that failed.

The other thing I'm still doing is slowly fixing up the hoses and cables under the bonnet so nothing rubs. Extend your diff and fuel breathers at the rear too. 110 2.4TDCi
110 300Tdi

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20th Mar 2009 10:01pm

spudfan

Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
Location: Co Donegal
Posts: 4615

Check out "aulro.com". That is the Australian Land Rover owners site.Lots of people have overlanded in the Tdci.Post your question there and you will get all the info you could ever want. Nice crowd on the site. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai

21st Mar 2009 2:14pm

sasha2001

Member Since: 02 Jan 2009
Location: New Zealand+ russia
Posts: 206

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Tonga Green

Re: Overlanding with the Puma

Rob A wrote:
I am preparing for an overland trip here in Brazil and would like to know if anyone has already been away for a long trip with their new Puma Defender.If so, how did it go, any problems, things to look out for? My biggest concern is with the ECU. Previously, I have travelled with a 110 Tdi and I have no idea what to expect from the new electronics with the Puma. All info very welcome.

Yes check out aro forum, there is a guy "scallops" who drove 30000km in new tdci in deserts etc, I cannot find exact post but here is one from him
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defen...ption.html

number 4 post down the page, maybe srach puma and trips, hope this helps

21st Mar 2009 7:12pm

sasha2001

Member Since: 02 Jan 2009
Location: New Zealand+ russia
Posts: 206

Re: Overlanding with the Puma

[quote="Rob A"]I am preparing for an overland trip here in Brazil and would like to know if anyone has already been away for a long trip with their new Puma Defender.If so, how did it go, any problems, things to look out for? My biggest concern is with the ECU. Previously, I have travelled with a 110 Tdi and I have no idea what to expect from the new electronics with the Puma. All info very welcome.[/quot

Found it

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/multi-state-repo...esert.html

and search for his preparation thread

21st Mar 2009 7:13pm

Rob A

Member Since: 06 Feb 2009
Location: Sao Paulo
Posts: 29

Thanks for all the responses.

Looks like an extra vacuum pump is essential then. The car’s done 5,000 km and so far so good with the pump, so I’ll leave it and hope, but take along an extra just in case. I’ll check out at the dealers if the replacement here is still the old one or the new double sealed unit that MK and dm_td5 mention. Amongst other stuff, will also definitely be taking spare u-joints, wheel bearings and the whole range of filters (outside the big cities here they are not so easy to find).

Good advice about all the hoses, I checked mine out a few weeks back and already noticed some wear and tear. Nothing a couple of hours, plenty of tape and some of those little plastic tie down thingys couldn’t put right. As for extending the diff and fuel breathers, I guess the best way is to buy a kit. Any suggestions?

Finally, thanks spudfan and sasha2001 for the ARO Forum tip, already had a look, lots of interesting stuff there and I will be hunting down the recommended threads.

Have a great weekend. 130 HCPU 2.4TDCi
110 300TDi

21st Mar 2009 11:54pm

sasha2001

Member Since: 02 Jan 2009
Location: New Zealand+ russia
Posts: 206

Rob A wrote:
Thanks for all the responses.

Looks like an extra vacuum pump is essential then. The car’s done 5,000 km and so far so good with the pump, so I’ll leave it and hope, but take along an extra just in case. I’ll check out at the dealers if the replacement here is still the old one or the new double sealed unit that MK and dm_td5 mention. Amongst other stuff, will also definitely be taking spare u-joints, wheel bearings and the whole range of filters (outside the big cities here they are not so easy to find).

Good advice about all the hoses, I checked mine out a few weeks back and already noticed some wear and tear. Nothing a couple of hours, plenty of tape and some of those little plastic tie down thingys couldn’t put right. As for extending the diff and fuel breathers, I guess the best way is to buy a kit. Any suggestions?

Finally, thanks spudfan and sasha2001 for the ARO Forum tip, already had a look, lots of interesting stuff there and I will be hunting down the recommended threads.

Have a great weekend.

Here in New Zealand, specialitly shop is using "some type of elbows that fit" on 2007 onwards and hose from the local shop and cables ties etc, worked fine on my td5 for 8 years!!!

22nd Mar 2009 12:27am

dm_td5

Member Since: 20 Jul 2008
Location: Arnhem Land
Posts: 609

Rob A wrote:
As for extending the diff and fuel breathers, I guess the best way is to buy a kit. Any suggestions?

I simply bought some soft flexible hose with a 6mm internal diameter, dipped into hot water to soften it more and slid it over the breather hose then cable tied it up to where I wanted. I did think of putting a membrane filter over it for the fuel tank breather but haven't as yet. 110 2.4TDCi
110 300Tdi

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22nd Mar 2009 2:32am

mse

Member Since: 06 Apr 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 5034

In the UK the vacuum pump is now a restricted part. When mine went it had to be released specially centrally before desford could ship it.

Im not sure how it works with the rest of the world - but in the UK you cant get it as a spare (easily anyway) Mike

22nd Mar 2009 6:30pm

sasha2001

Member Since: 02 Jan 2009
Location: New Zealand+ russia
Posts: 206

mse wrote:
In the UK the vacuum pump is now a restricted part. When mine went it had to be released specially centrally before desford could ship it.

Im not sure how it works with the rest of the world - but in the UK you cant get it as a spare (easily anyway)

Here in New zealand they did not have ONE in the country for a mutual friend at Christmas, so he put on a Ford one drove for his holidays for two weeks, returned to the stealers who insisted on putting on the new arrived one!!!
he said why,they looked and checked and agreed it was ok and gave him the Landrover part as a spare!!!

22nd Mar 2009 7:11pm

mse

Member Since: 06 Apr 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 5034

Does the ford version have the modification? Mike

22nd Mar 2009 7:54pm

Rob A

Member Since: 06 Feb 2009
Location: Sao Paulo
Posts: 29

dm_td5 wrote:
Rob A wrote:
As for extending the diff and fuel breathers, I guess the best way is to buy a kit. Any suggestions?

I simply bought some soft flexible hose with a 6mm internal diameter, dipped into hot water to soften it more and slid it over the breather hose then cable tied it up to where I wanted. I did think of putting a membrane filter over it for the fuel tank breather but haven't as yet.

Thanks. Having had a look, I'll probably do something similar myself. I doubt if I could get a kit here anyway and if I could it would be ridiculously expensive. All Land Rover parts here are outrageously priced. Last time I came back to the UK, I returned here with a suitcase full of kit. Saved a fortune. 130 HCPU 2.4TDCi
110 300TDi

22nd Mar 2009 8:50pm

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