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Supacat



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vehicles failing MOTs due to avoidable faults & dodgy DI
Thousands of vehicles are failing MOT tests every day due to avoidable faults and dodgy DIY fixes, new research has found.

Nearly 32 per cent of vehicles fail MOT tests first time government data shows, many of which could be avoided if drivers carried out basic checks beforehand says BookMyGarage.com.

It asked its network of over 9,000 franchise and independent garages for the single most easily avoided MOT fault, with a third of garages responding with empty screen wash reservoirs as an all-too-common cause of MOT failure, despite the consumable item being designed to be easily refilled by drivers.

A further third stated that failed light bulbs were often the single cause of a vehicle failing. Bulbs are the most common cause of MOT failure, with 27 per cent1 of all defects falling within the category of ‘lamps, reflectors and electrical equipment’.

Some 17 per cent of workshops said cars had failed simply because of the presence of objects obstructing the driver’s view – namely phone holders, sat navs and air fresheners.

Meanwhile, a further 13 per cent said under-inflated tyres were commonly sighted, though this results in a minor defect rather than a failure.

Many MOT failures were caused by cost-cutting DIY measures taken by motorists.

These included instances of both duct table and sellotape being used to patch up windscreen cracks, or suspension components being held together with cable ties and bungee cord. On one occasion, an exhaust was being supported by a leather belt.


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excossack



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I wonder how many of the MOT failures for failed bulbs is due to the awkwardness of replacing due to removing half the car to get change a bulb? - No excuse I know. 1999 Defender TD5 110

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Matt110



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Lol, that belt looks like its working just fine Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter
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A bit of Connolly Hide Food on that belt once a year will certainly outland a poxy mild steel bracket. Rolling with laughter Defender 90XS SW
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Rashers



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The only MOT failure I have ever had in 30 odd years of driving was caused by a damaged brake pipe which was due to a botched swivel warranty repair carried out by the main dealer.

I never got to the bottom of it but I got to drive around in their Disco Sport for another day. Surprisingly they took full responsibility for it it but it is a blemish on my trucks MOT history on line having failed its first MOT

Lights, especially headlamps on some cars are an absolute nightmare to replace. Lights are also things that can fail on you at any time, including driving to the test centre. Whereas the belt and the exhaust had well and truly failed before the test. Makes you wonder why you would bother paying for the MOT if your exhaust was being held up with a leather belt? ‘It’s worth a chance, the examiner might not see it?’ Rolling Eyes
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Daisy90



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What’s actually wrong with the belt on the exhaust ?

If it was secure and the exhaust not leaking etc
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markb110



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Round here the cause of light bulb issues are due to Halfords fitting them...
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chopcat



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Re: vehicles failing MOTs due to avoidable faults & dodg
Supacat wrote:
Thousands of vehicles are failing MOT tests every day due to avoidable faults and dodgy DIY fixes, new research has found.

Nearly 32 per cent of vehicles fail MOT tests first time government data shows, many of which could be avoided if drivers carried out basic checks beforehand says BookMyGarage.com.

It asked its network of over 9,000 franchise and independent garages for the single most easily avoided MOT fault, with a third of garages responding with empty screen wash reservoirs as an all-too-common cause of MOT failure, despite the consumable item being designed to be easily refilled by drivers.

A further third stated that failed light bulbs were often the single cause of a vehicle failing. Bulbs are the most common cause of MOT failure, with 27 per cent1 of all defects falling within the category of ‘lamps, reflectors and electrical equipment’.

Some 17 per cent of workshops said cars had failed simply because of the presence of objects obstructing the driver’s view – namely phone holders, sat navs and air fresheners.

Meanwhile, a further 13 per cent said under-inflated tyres were commonly sighted, though this results in a minor defect rather than a failure.

Many MOT failures were caused by cost-cutting DIY measures taken by motorists.

These included instances of both duct table and sellotape being used to patch up windscreen cracks, or suspension components being held together with cable ties and bungee cord. On one occasion, an exhaust was being supported by a leather belt.


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https://cardealermagazine.co.uk/publish/th...xes/210131


I would take all of that with a very big pinch of salt personally. Having taken mine , as I do every year, to my dealer who has serviced the car for 20 years, for a service and pre MOT check and test. Only to find it then went on to fail the test for the led indicators being the wrong colour.

So if the “experts” who service them cant get it right let them not chastise us for the same thing.

So you could re title the post

Many MOT failures are caused by expert service centres not doing their job in the first place
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ARC99



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excossack wrote:
I wonder how many of the MOT failures for failed bulbs is due to the awkwardness of replacing due to removing half the car to get change a bulb? - No excuse I know.


To change a rear bulb on Disco Mk1 was a Censored of a job , all the back side trim had to come out ,then the screws that held the lamp unit in this was due to the lack of room and not having double jointed wrists. Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to Censored us off.

Richard
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Rashers



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Not LR but I think there was a Renault Megane (I stand to be corrected?) that required removing the liner from the wheel arch to change the front head lamp and it was a lot easier if the wheel was removed?

Makes you wonder whose bright idea it was to make changing lamps in any vehicle that difficult?
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mine went in for MoT yesterday and stupidly I left the kids car seat in. I was in a rush and pouring with rain but no excuse

it passed but
got an advisory for not being able to test one of the rear seat belts correctly Big Cry Defender D250 HSE
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markb110



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Feel your pain, common sense is certainly heading the way of the dinosaurs.

I had a fail once because the track rod was ‘rotating’.

I had to explain what a Dan Bar was and hence the sticking out thing was a grease nipple.....and how come they did not notice the one in front of the axle ... Rolling Eyes

Sometimes you wished they would ask before showing a fail or an advisory. Whistle
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Rashers wrote:
Not LR but I think there was a Renault Megane (I stand to be corrected?) that required removing the liner from the wheel arch to change the front head lamp and it was a lot easier if the wheel was removed?

Makes you wonder whose bright idea it was to make changing lamps in any vehicle that difficult?


I had a BMW that you had to take the front wheel off to change the headlight bulb. At least they had thoughtfully provided a flap in the wheel arch liner to access the back of the lamp. You couldn't see what your hand was doing so it was all by feel.

The D3 you had to take the grille off and remove the headlight.

I had some older Land Cruiser in work and someone working for me managed to drop a H4 bulb inside the lamp unit resulting in several lost man hours trying to retrieve it. I don't even know how it was possible to get the lamp base through the hole. Never underestimate the ability of people to cock things up! 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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Huttopia



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Having recently changed the headlight bulb on my P38 it must have been designed with Donald Trump in mind i.e. ridiculously small hands. What should have been a 2 minute job was a a proper nause, scraped knuckles, lots of swearing, a break for tea and to calm down. Ridiculous.

Give me a Mk2 Golf any day.
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markb110



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Its been downhill from here.......progress eh Whistle

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