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LR90XS2011



Member Since: 05 Apr 2011
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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green
Sales Pitch
Got this in the post today



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expect I will get a call now as I foolishly turned the knob, wonder how much these cost

good marketing? good for the environment (certainly not) DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy
Post #864440 30th Oct 2020 3:32pm
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vlad



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How does it work? Does it have a modem/LTE inside that pings them when you press it? A teardown would be appreciated. MY2021 Defender 90 P400 SE
Post #864441 30th Oct 2020 3:37pm
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blackwolf



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Does it support SOTA?
Post #864444 30th Oct 2020 3:59pm
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LR90XS2011



Member Since: 05 Apr 2011
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you have both lost me but I will dismantle it for you

its flashing all sorts of colours



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 DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy
Post #864457 30th Oct 2020 5:09pm
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vlad



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Thank you.

That does seem to be a very simple LTE modem (SoC and antenna) with eSIM. Interesting! MY2021 Defender 90 P400 SE
Post #864460 30th Oct 2020 5:21pm
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Tim in Scotland



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I’m really surprised that they are sending live batteries through the mail system, I thought that wasn’t permitted because of the fire / explosion rusk Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
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Post #864467 30th Oct 2020 5:59pm
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diesel_jim



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United Kingdom 2006 Defender 110 Td5 SW Epsom Green
It'll probably need taking back to a stealership for an update soon.... or just crash as you open it up, leaving you not knowing what the *speshul* offer was Laughing
Post #864506 30th Oct 2020 9:06pm
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Zed



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
Tim in Scotland wrote:
I’m really surprised that they are sending live batteries through the mail system, I thought that wasn’t permitted because of the fire / explosion rusk


Easier than posting smoke and mirrors. WARNING.
This post may contain sarcasm.
Post #864516 30th Oct 2020 9:55pm
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Balvaig



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Mine started flashing when I opened it. Dunked it in to a bucket of water just in case. Rolling Eyes
Post #864518 30th Oct 2020 10:15pm
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Clemmo



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I pressed mine ..
Got email and text straight away
Phone call 30 minutes later

Great marketing...everybody’s going to want to press the knob! Very Happy

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Post #864524 30th Oct 2020 11:11pm
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blackwolf



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Tim in Scotland wrote:
I’m really surprised that they are sending live batteries through the mail system, I thought that wasn’t permitted because of the fire / explosion rusk


The restrictions vary from one carrier to another, and depend on whether it is going or may go by air, etc. In essence generally batteries up to a certain size can be sent provided that they are installed in a piece of equipment (which I imagine covers this case). If the batteries were on their own, Royal Mail probably wouldn't carry them.

I ended up learning far more than I wanted to know about this when I ordered a NOCO boost starter device from Amazon a while back, which was delivered by Amazon's own carrier (no problem there) but was faulty. They sent me a new one, but I couldn't find a single carrier who would take the defective one back, since it didn't class as an installed battery since the device itself was a power supply, and the device was defective even though there was no suggestion that the battery was defective, and the battery was a Lithium type. Absolutely nobody was prepared to carry it, and Amazon's own carriers (who delivered it) won't do returns. In the end Amazon told me not to bother sending it back but to dispose of it in a legal and appropriate manner, which is also not easy with a lithium battery.

As society's dependence on horrific battery chemistry increases I think that transport and disposal of these nasty things is an area which will require much revision.
Post #864552 31st Oct 2020 10:28am
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Rashers



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I am sorry, but in a world where we (and large multi-national companies) are suppose to be thinking about what we are doing to our environment, that is about as unfriendly as you can get.

As JLR must have your address, email and telephone number, turning the Knob is not going to give them the contact details, why on earth do they not just contact people without the utter waste.

More landfill.

I'm no way an eco warrior, but all the same I hate things that are waste for the sake of waste.

I hope you are not twisting the knob in public, but doing it in the privacy of your house. People may get the wrong idea? Rolling with laughter
Post #864555 31st Oct 2020 10:38am
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Balvaig



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Scotland 2016 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 Landmark LE Corris Grey
The packaging it came in can be reused to send it off for recycling.
However, this means giving whatever information the device contains to a third party.
So environmentally totally unfriendly, and potential a data breach as well.
Well done JLR.
Post #864571 31st Oct 2020 11:33am
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discomog



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Tried mine and it didn't work. Took it outside and still hasn't worked. Why doesn't that surprise me. Perhaps i should wait for the over the air update Rolling with laughter Defender 90XS SW
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Post #864581 31st Oct 2020 12:11pm
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Caterham



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I presume if you can rotate it there's some kind of axle - has the end snapped off?

Rolling with laughter
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