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PMU

Member Since: 13 Aug 2020
Location: Essex
Posts: 33

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

Very Suspect !

I have emailed this guy and he wants to transport the car as he is now in Scotland !

I can pay by ESCROW or PayPal......

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2009-Land-Rover...SwMFVfZgsz

21st Sep 2020 7:36pm

VVS210

Member Since: 12 Nov 2016
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 953

That's interesting - if you look at their other items there are 11 cars all from the same dealer with the same address he uses, but there are also the tell tale collection of random cars, vans, motor homes that are typical of a scam. A year someone has managed to create a phone account that links to a legit one...

It's scams where people lift details from another ad that made me decide to put my username across all the photos I posted when I have ever sold a car on eBay - I put the name in places in each photo where it would be pretty much impossible to photoshop it out without it being obvious the picture had been doctored.

21st Sep 2020 7:52pm

camelman

Member Since: 27 Feb 2013
Location: Peak District
Posts: 3370

Too cheap, zero feedback. If it smells like a scam....

21st Sep 2020 8:06pm

Dinnu

Member Since: 24 Dec 2019
Location: Lija
Posts: 3414

2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Santorini Black

0 reviews.. does that mean he never sold a car?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/alwill_8843?_trksid=p2047675.l2559

Emails are all slightly different:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-Defe...SwnZJfZgmM 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black

21st Sep 2020 8:11pm

camelman

Member Since: 27 Feb 2013
Location: Peak District
Posts: 3370

Zero feedback means no one has left a review on anything they have bought from them. First thing I look for is the feedback score if spending more than £2.99

21st Sep 2020 8:34pm

Martin
Site Admin

Member Since: 02 Apr 2007
Location: Hook Norton
Posts: 6604

2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Montalcino Red

100% a scam, too cheap by about £9k and an email in the ad. Reported.

1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top

2015 D90 XS SW

21st Sep 2020 8:48pm

Martin
Site Admin

Member Since: 02 Apr 2007
Location: Hook Norton
Posts: 6604

Here is the listing the photos and text have been copied from:

https://themarket.co.uk/listings/land-rove...tatus=live

1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top

2015 D90 XS SW

21st Sep 2020 8:50pm

Fat Cog

Member Since: 19 Mar 2012
Location: Oxfordshire & Devon
Posts: 502

2016 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Corris Grey

Total scam, I've reported it to FleaBay as fraudulent. Scumbags Since 1973...S1, Air Portable's, Defender's, but only my Wolf TUL HS GS remains

21st Sep 2020 9:16pm

Darcy Fairfax

Member Since: 05 Oct 2014
Location: London
Posts: 721

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Corris Grey

Too cheap, surely ..... scam

22nd Sep 2020 12:38am

CallumB

Member Since: 22 Sep 2018
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 87

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey

eBay says seller location is USA

22nd Sep 2020 5:20pm

Martin
Site Admin

Member Since: 02 Apr 2007
Location: Hook Norton
Posts: 6604

I'm staggered this is still live - eBay clearly don't give a

1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top

2015 D90 XS SW

22nd Sep 2020 5:24pm

seriesonenut

Member Since: 19 Nov 2014
Location: Essex
Posts: 1211

looking at ebay tonight the site is flooded again with scam ad's. Same pictures. All they do is clutter the site and leave those looking having to spot the genuine ad. Surely someone listing 100's of vehicles for sale must ring an alarm bell at ebay HQ? 2010 XS USW
1957 Series One 88 diesel
1958 Series One 88 4x2

22nd Sep 2020 6:28pm

mattc

Member Since: 10 Apr 2019
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 73

A while ago I was building an AI model to detect fraudulent listings on eBay, as it annoyed me when I was searching for my Defender that so many of them were dodgy. There are some clear patterns humans can see in the fraudulent listings, which make it possible for a model to detect it:

* Seller suddenly lists products that are much more expensive than they usually list
* Seller has no feedback (usually denoting a new account or a hacked one)
* Seller includes email or phone number within the content
* Image has been used in another listing by another seller
etc. etc.

To train my model, I needed to flag them as fraudulent so eBay could confirm they were and thus teach the model. However, even though I repeatedly flagged them they still took days to be removed. I'm positive eBay could do a lot more to solve this problem. Spotting the dodgy ones really isn't that hard at all.

22nd Sep 2020 6:58pm

PMU

Member Since: 13 Aug 2020
Location: Essex
Posts: 33

That all makes me feel a whole lot better !!

I am sticking to dealers for the time being !

Cheers

22nd Sep 2020 7:01pm

Tim in Scotland

Member Since: 23 May 2007
Location: The Land that time forgot
Posts: 3753

Described as Balmoral Green........ in 2009 that would have been Tonga or Galway Green surely? Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!

22nd Sep 2020 7:47pm

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