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Bluest



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
Wing Removal
I'm am wanting to removed the rh front wing on my 2007 Puma to get access to the ABS pump. Is the procedure in the Haynes correct? I think it says the shock tower needs to be removed which I would rather not do. Can it be done without?

Does the inner wing out with the outer wing or can it be left in place? 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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rallysteve



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You will find it very tricky to get the wing off with the shock tower in place as it stops you from being able to get the inner wing clear. If you can access the bolts okay then you might be able to remove just the outer wing skin, I haven't tried this on the vehicle though so might not be possible.

Steve 02' 110 TD5 Double Cab Rebuild Thread
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donmacn



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I can say that I managed to remove the outer wing assembly (i.e. side, top, headlights) while leaving the inner wing in place, but this was with a 300Tdi vehicle.

There are a number (4?) of the very coarse thread screws holding the outer wing to the inner wing along the top - they are the key ones to get access too. But as I say, it might be different with the newer versions. I'm sure it wasn't "easy" but I don't remember it being especially difficult. Donald

1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong
(The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html )
2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8

in the past..
RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi
1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box
1993 Discovery 300Tdi

not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper...
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Bluest



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
Ok, maybe I'll bite the bullet and try to remove the shock tower. The corrosion on all the fasteners was putting me off.

I don't think removing just the wing side skin will be that easy as the Airbox and aforementioned ABS pump are likely to retricy access to the nuts unless anyone knows otherwise 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
Post #851932 25th Aug 2020 2:15pm
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donmacn



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That might well be easier in the long run, but if your shock turret is a bit crusty do have a look at the 'wing only' option.

As you can see on the diagram, the inner to outer wing fasteners along the top (marked part 1) don't run the whole length. On my 300, the first one is forward of the master cylinder, and the last one is somewhere behind the fuel filter. I had to unfasten that, and the expansion tank and lie them forward onto the engine, but there's no drama in that.



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Also, although the fasteners can look quite bad, they don't put up too much of a fight because they are just coarse screws and not nuts and bolts. There's nothing you need to get access to on the other side.

I'm pretty sure the ABS pump on the bulkhead wouldn't be in the way of accessing these screws either.

Getting access to the topmost outer wing to bulkhead screw is a bit of a pain, but you'll need to do that either way. Donald

1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong
(The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html )
2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8

in the past..
RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi
1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box
1993 Discovery 300Tdi

not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper...
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v8bob



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Well, in November 2011 I removed the front wing from a puma in a car park. Needed a quick fix that was a little awkward to get to. My suggestion was get the wing out of the way.
Didn’t have any books, so just unbolted what appeared to be holding it on....


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Turret didn’t get removed.
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Bluest



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
Excellent, that gives me hope. I’ll try with turret in place and see how we go. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
v8bob wrote:
Well, in November 2011 I removed the front wing from a puma in a car park. Needed a quick fix that was a little awkward to get to. My suggestion was get the wing out of the way.
Didn’t have any books, so just unbolted what appeared to be holding it on....


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Turret didn’t get removed.


What did the owner say when he returned to the car? Rolling with laughter
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Bluest



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
Looking at the pics, maybe the shock turret removal is to allow the wing to come off with bonnet still on. With bonnet off it can lift up high enough to clear the shock. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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VVS210



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"If you're pinching the bonnet & wings, I'm having the wheels, doors & stereo!" Rolling with laughter


Seriously, with the bonnet either held back towards the windscreen with a rope from the rear over the roof, or removed (2 man job) the wing will come out complete with inner wing Thumbs Up
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Mo Murphy



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I've never taken the turrets off to remove a wing yet !
Mo The Land Rover 90 - Many are called, few are chosen.

50 Shades of Pennine Grey
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Bluest



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
Success. Thanks for advice. Wing off and new switch solenoid block fitted to the ABS pump.

On a Puma I would recommend leaving the inner wing in place as that means you don’t need to disturb the airbox or disconnect and of the loom in the wing. The four screws to separate 5hem are easy to get to through the wing top vent.



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 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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