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Stu_XS

Member Since: 22 Jul 2018
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 86

2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Aintree Green

Hi Dan,

I'm not seeing anywhere, not here or on your website, where you've mentioned you are selling MoD overstock items and not LR sourced accessories.

The items you're selling are for the MoD Wolf which is reinforced at the fixing points whereas the civilian Defender would require the nut plates hence why they are included in the MANTEC supplied kit. Again I don't see in any of your listings that the item is only suitable for the MoD Wolf Defender.

You're being deliberately economical with the truth Dan, that's what's taken the jam out of my donut. As I mentioned earlier I bought from Duckworths to give some support to the company that supports the scene and also to have a warranted LR part not an Ex MoD auction clearance item that I could have bought for less on eBay.

Is there a valid LR accessory/parts warranty for this item?

Can you provide the missing nut plates? Stu...

2013 Aintree Green 90 XS SW 2.2 Puma

29th Nov 2018 7:14pm

Grouse

Member Since: 16 Apr 2012
Location: on the hill
Posts: 521

Oh for goodness sake - you bought a quality Mantec carrier for a fraction of it’s true value - if you are not happy box it up and send it back and buy elsewhere at full prices - there is no pleasing some people who will winge whatever

29th Nov 2018 7:49pm

duckworthparts
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Member Since: 30 Jun 2011
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Its a Genuine Land Rover Part, VPLDR0130 was supplied to the MOD from Land Rover.

I don't need to supply details on where we source our products.

2 Year warranty still applies to this product.

No we can't supply the nut plates, these are a Mantec product who no longer produce said items or carrier.

We are also the cheapest supplier of these on ebay. https://www.facebook.com/duckworthparts

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Can also supply OEM & Aftermarket parts

30th Nov 2018 8:20am

Zed

Member Since: 07 Oct 2017
Location: In the woods
Posts: 3312

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black

Grouse wrote:
Oh for goodness sake - you bought a quality Mantec carrier for a fraction of it’s true value - if you are not happy box it up and send it back and buy elsewhere at full prices - there is no pleasing some people who will winge whatever

Well said.

30th Nov 2018 9:21am

Mo Murphy

Member Since: 01 Jun 2008
Location: Letchworth Garden City, Herts
Posts: 2244

1984 Defender 90 BMW M57 3.0 Diesel HT Auto Pennine Grey

Grouse wrote:
Oh for goodness sake - you bought a quality Mantec carrier for a fraction of it’s true value - if you are not happy box it up and send it back and buy elsewhere at full prices - there is no pleasing some people who will winge whatever

I've got to say that I concur.
Mo The Land Rover 90 - Many are called, few are chosen.

50 Shades of Pennine Grey

30th Nov 2018 11:18am

JimC

Member Since: 22 Jan 2011
Location: NOVA
Posts: 164

2007 Defender 130 300 Tdi HCPU Arles Blue

Dude, I’d buy a returned one even if it was missing all the bolts and stuff. Fitting these is not an enigma, lots of help is available, and the vendor is following up generously on a friggin’ Internet forum. The complainant is being too demanding here.

1st Dec 2018 12:40am

Stu_XS

Member Since: 22 Jul 2018
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 86

Grouse wrote:
Oh for goodness sake - you bought a quality Mantec carrier for a fraction of it’s true value - if you are not happy box it up and send it back and buy elsewhere at full prices - there is no pleasing some people who will winge whatever

Zed wrote:
Well said.

Mo Murphy wrote:

I've got to say that I concur.
Mo

JimC wrote:
Dude, I’d buy a returned one even if it was missing all the bolts and stuff. Fitting these is not an enigma, lots of help is available, and the vendor is following up generously on a friggin’ Internet forum. The complainant is being too demanding here.

Gent's

Thanks for your comments, when I want your expert opinion on how to spend my money or to follow up a complaint with a retailer I'll be sure to ask.

The retailer has responded on the "friggin’ Internet forum" in the post which he started and offered the items for sale, which as it happens is not a bad place to be asking the questions in my opinion.

The good news, on my part at least, is that I have sourced the missing parts from the kit albeit at an additional expense but at least I'll know the kit is being fitted as intended by design.

duckworthparts wrote:
these are a Mantec product who no longer produce said items or carrier.

MANTEC now has stock of the retail version with all necessary parts required for a civilian vehicle installation and are selling them via select retailers. The price is a little higher than the MoD overstock ones but you're likely to get the support of the manufacturer and supplier unlike with the MoD overstock items. Stu...

2013 Aintree Green 90 XS SW 2.2 Puma

4th Dec 2018 5:34pm

Darland

Member Since: 31 Mar 2019
Location: Kent
Posts: 3

I too was sold one of these at Peterborough 2018 and no mention was made of missing fixings or instructions

31st Mar 2019 9:04pm

Darland

Member Since: 31 Mar 2019
Location: Kent
Posts: 3

Stu_XS wrote:
Grouse wrote:
Oh for goodness sake - you bought a quality Mantec carrier for a fraction of it’s true value - if you are not happy box it up and send it back and buy elsewhere at full prices - there is no pleasing some people who will winge whatever

Zed wrote:
Well said.

Mo Murphy wrote:

I've got to say that I concur.
Mo

JimC wrote:
Dude, I’d buy a returned one even if it was missing all the bolts and stuff. Fitting these is not an enigma, lots of help is available, and the vendor is following up generously on a friggin’ Internet forum. The complainant is being too demanding here.

Gent's

Thanks for your comments, when I want your expert opinion on how to spend my money or to follow up a complaint with a retailer I'll be sure to ask.

The retailer has responded on the "friggin’ Internet forum" in the post which he started and offered the items for sale, which as it happens is not a bad place to be asking the questions in my opinion.

The good news, on my part at least, is that I have sourced the missing parts from the kit albeit at an additional expense but at least I'll know the kit is being fitted as intended by design.

duckworthparts wrote:
these are a Mantec product who no longer produce said items or carrier.

MANTEC now has stock of the retail version with all necessary parts required for a civilian vehicle installation and are selling them via select retailers. The price is a little higher than the MoD overstock ones but you're likely to get the support of the manufacturer and supplier unlike with the MoD overstock items.

Stu how did you resolve this please? Where did you get the missing bits from?

31st Mar 2019 9:22pm

Stu_XS

Member Since: 22 Jul 2018
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 86

I was able to source the missing parts directly from Mantec. Stu...

2013 Aintree Green 90 XS SW 2.2 Puma

1st Apr 2019 12:25am

Darland

Member Since: 31 Mar 2019
Location: Kent
Posts: 3

Many thanks Stu.

1st Apr 2019 5:38am

Nigelpugh7

Member Since: 18 May 2018
Location: Solihull
Posts: 115

Thread resurrection!!

Hi Guys,

Sorry for the thread resurrection, but I’ve just got around to fitting one of theses carriers, that i got from Dan at Duckworths almost two years ago.

I did try to keep all the parts together, but assumed that i had managed to misplace the spreader plates for the back of the top and bottom mounts.

But now thanks to this excellent thread, and the great guide shared from Martin, i now understand that the kit actually never came with those plates?

That’s correct isn’t it?

So on to me fitting Mine, I wondered of they are needed.

It seems to me that the lower mount, which has the three long bolts, has six large washers, which looking at Martin’s guide, one goes on the outside and one at the back next to the chassis, is that a correct assumption on my behalf?

Also what are the two large rubber grommets for? As i can see no mention to where they should be fitted, or in fact anywhere that has a hole of 30mm+ that they should fit into?

Here’s some pics of how far i got at the weekend.

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25th Aug 2020 12:24pm

Nigelpugh7

Member Since: 18 May 2018
Location: Solihull
Posts: 115

These are the back plates that I believe i don’t have?

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But from the great guide Martin posted this looks like they are not needed, but is that only on the wolf model vehicles?

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25th Aug 2020 12:31pm

Martin
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Member Since: 02 Apr 2007
Location: Hook Norton
Posts: 6611

2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Montalcino Red

Oooh this can of worms again

There was some discussion over the need for the nut plates. They are definitely useful, to make fitting easier. But I feel that the same function (load spread) can be achieved using some nice fat washers.

1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top

2015 D90 XS SW

25th Aug 2020 12:34pm

Nigelpugh7

Member Since: 18 May 2018
Location: Solihull
Posts: 115

Ahhh Cheers MArtin, sorry didn’t want to drag it up again.

Thanks for the feedback and thats what I thought too, re the washers.

Are the big ones I mentioned, included in the kit, about 35-40mm diameter good enough do you think?

Cheers again.

25th Aug 2020 1:16pm

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