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Mr Scrofula Member Since: 08 Jul 2019 Location: Scotland Posts: 8 |
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28th Jul 2020 11:26pm |
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LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324 |
Oooh, that looks like somebody has already tried and failed to repair it and is unfortunately, likely to be a lot worse when exposed. The hinge block fixing holes should be tubed, for example.
The windscreen will lift off but there are two pegs on its' lower edge that engage in holes in the top of the bulkhead. To clear them, it's necessary to unbolt enough of the roof to allow the front edge to be lifted a few inches and propped. It's also very likely that at least the top part of the dash will need to be removed. How far you need to go with the innards need to be removed will depend on what you find as you go along, but it wouldn't surprise me if quite a lot needs to come out. This sort of repair is not a five minute job, I'm afraid. Darren 110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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29th Jul 2020 7:08am |
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VVS210 Member Since: 12 Nov 2016 Location: Hampshire Posts: 953 |
If that is what you can see with the windscreen frame in place the chances are there is a lot more rust along the top of the bulkhead unfortunately. Would suggest that it is better to remove the windscreen frame & do the job properly now rather than just treat what you can see as it is, that rust has come from the inside outwards so there will be more that you haven't seen yet.
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29th Jul 2020 7:09am |
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Mr Scrofula Member Since: 08 Jul 2019 Location: Scotland Posts: 8 |
Thanks, it is as I expected. The tubes are there but may be a bit loose. Are they attached to the front and back of the bulkhead i.e. between the 2 skins. I saw a few pics of other peoples bulkheads during mid repair, and it looked like the tubes were supported by a plate on the inside. The repair corner panels that I have seen, don't seem to have the tubes.
I don't think anyone has done a repair before. there is no signs of filler etc. There was some mild corrosion of the aluminium windscreen frame, which I quickly wire-brushed off, and will get sorted when it comes to painting. I will have a look round town today and brandish my photos to see who will take it on. I wouldn't mind having a go at the repair and welding, myself, but will save the learning curve for something less delicate (and visible). Probably need someone with a bit of experience to check out the inside for corrosion damage, although I think it was mainly surface rust only. I think it started under the seal, and the seal trapped the water and perpetuated the corrosion locally. I think any water inside would have evaporated rather than sat....I hope... Will get the upper bulkhead/windscreen seal replaced at the same time, while they have access. Cheers, Mr S |
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29th Jul 2020 10:53am |
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V8GPC Member Since: 18 Jul 2016 Location: Manchester Posts: 289 |
Britannica Restorations Ltd
this is part 2 actual repair very similar section to yours. |
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29th Jul 2020 11:54am |
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LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324 |
The tubes should be attached at both ends. I think the idea with the repair panels is that you weld them to the existing tubes.
I only mentioned that because the line of 'bubbled' metal across the top from the RH end to the rust hole looked like a weld.
Sorry to be the voice of doom but I think you're being optimistic, I'm afraid. Pretty much every account that you read of repairing rust of this nature says that it's worse than what you can see. Good luck and let us know how you get on. Darren 110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia Last edited by LandRoverAnorak on 29th Jul 2020 1:48pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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29th Jul 2020 12:03pm |
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jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 7983 |
i am afraid thats a typical LR issue. remove the windscreen and lift the lower screen/bulkhead seal and see what it looks like.
any decent welder will be able to repair it with some new sections welded in, i expect its corroded along the top towards the centre of the vehicle under the aforementioned seal. Cheers James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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29th Jul 2020 12:53pm |
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Mr Scrofula Member Since: 08 Jul 2019 Location: Scotland Posts: 8 |
Thanks, I have watched most of his videos. He is very good and explains things well. Need to find someone similar to him locally !
Or set up camp in my friends garage with his stick-welder for a couple of weeks. |
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29th Jul 2020 3:31pm |
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Mr Scrofula Member Since: 08 Jul 2019 Location: Scotland Posts: 8 |
Think I may have found a land rover enthusiast who has a good reputation doing repairs of this sort, who will hopefully pop round today to have a look.
Will keep you informed of the progress, and extent of the corrosion. Cheers, MR S |
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29th Jul 2020 3:37pm |
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Mr Scrofula Member Since: 08 Jul 2019 Location: Scotland Posts: 8 |
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10th Aug 2020 10:28pm |
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mk1collector Member Since: 17 Sep 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 6769 |
Nice how much did they charge? Ray
My build thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic17615.html |
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11th Aug 2020 8:50am |
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Mr Scrofula Member Since: 08 Jul 2019 Location: Scotland Posts: 8 |
£300 - which for the amount of time to dismantle, prep, weld, paint, and reassemble is pretty good !
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11th Aug 2020 8:45pm |
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mk1collector Member Since: 17 Sep 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 6769 |
Sounds good Ray
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11th Aug 2020 10:18pm |
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williamthedog Member Since: 29 Dec 2012 Location: south wales Posts: 3441 |
Yes, that's a good price, I wouldn't bother doing it myself when it only costs that.
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12th Aug 2020 3:50am |
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