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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018   
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for “functions required to operate the motor vehicle.”
Story is about Tesla in Germany, but I wonder if it will have wider implications. Some will say about time ~ it's been obvious since the get go. https://electrek.co/2020/08/04/tesla-wiper...y-crashed/ |
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5th Aug 2020 7:26am |
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us off.
| Bian Considine Member Since: 25 Jul 2020 Location: Margate Posts: 53
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lets face it, "real" controls can be operated by the driver without looking at them - "virtual" ones need at least a glance at the screen to guide the finger.
Most of the HGV's I drive have on advanced board telematics/navigation and the touchscreen is locked off whilst moving - & quite rightly so. |
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5th Aug 2020 8:21am |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753 
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TBH, Tesla has taken use of the touch screen too far, I’m sure they would have put the indicators on it too if they thought they could get away with it. Even though my new car’s PriviPro system is a huge leap forward for Land Rover, from the controlling of it I think the BMW mouse system is much more intuitive and once used to it you don’t need to use the touch screen at all and at least all the important functions in the LR and BMW systems are still controlled away from the touchscreen - in both systems it’s basically still a Nav and Entertainment system. There’s still huge potential for voice control systems though. If you can say “Navigation, take me to xxxxx “ then why can’t you also say “controls, wipers on intermittent “ or “controls - headlights on”?
And one thing with the New Defender’s touch screen -it won’t play if you are wearing leather or wool gloves, it’s happy with C-19 latex gloves though Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come 2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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5th Aug 2020 9:07am |
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| shaggydog Member Since: 12 Aug 2012 Location: Kent Posts: 3347 
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Because every time someone says something like that be it to the car or "Alexa" or Siri" it makes me think of Kirk talking to "computer" on the Enterprise which is not a good look.   Running Restoration Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/post323197.html#323197
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5th Aug 2020 1:32pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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What about all the configurable off road settings? On a UK green lane under the same logic applied by a German Court you could be technically committing an offence.  Click image to enlarge |
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5th Aug 2020 2:21pm |
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| discomog Member Since: 09 May 2015 Location: Notts/Lincs Border Posts: 2535 
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As soon as you jump into a Tesla the first thing to catch your eye is the massive screen. It's like an iPad on wheels. Hate the things. Give me the two plus four dials any day, large speedo and tacho and four 50mm gauges for fuel, oil pressure, engine temperature and voltmeter or ammeter. Defender 90XS SW
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5th Aug 2020 3:12pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753
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Supacat you only get the configurable TR on certain versions and you pay extra on the rest of the models but also you don’t need to adjust anything at all, either leave it in TR Auto mode and it sorts itself out or don’t use TR at all and drive it just like a Classic Land Rover in low box and manually shifting the auto box as needed with assistance from the centre difflock and Traction Control/ ABS and HDC if needed. Touch screen adjustment is superfluous and I bet that fewer people will use it if they have it than even those who will go off-roading in their new Defender. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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5th Aug 2020 5:01pm |
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| 90 Dreamer Member Since: 13 Jul 2019 Location: Oop North Posts: 2188 
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About time they ban all kinds of media in cars / vehicles.........it 'should' and easily could have been done years ago before they made it a selling point of being able to hotsport anf other nonsense.......
When the selling point is how well you can 'connect' you just know the rest is garbage....... |
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5th Aug 2020 7:10pm |
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| markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2656  
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Sounds like that they are trying to soften up the public for self driving cars that no one is asking for and to protect the German car industry from Tesla's success.
It would be safer and cheaper in the long run to insist on an intelligence test as part of the driving test to reduce numbers on the roads.... |
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5th Aug 2020 7:25pm |
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| markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2656
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SUV of the future if they got their way to protect us from ourselves.....
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5th Aug 2020 7:30pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753
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That wouldn’t pass the pedestrian safety rules though........ Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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5th Aug 2020 7:42pm |
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| Mike c Member Since: 11 Aug 2017 Location: Maldon, Essex Posts: 932 
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All this touchscreen rubbish in vehicles just makes driver skills and perception of the task in hand deminish. Should not be legal, same as invisible indicators, dangerous blind spots in vehicle body design, and stupidly bright headlamps, so typical on many modern vehicles.
Notice how much faster people drive as time goes on, irrelevant of speed limits and road conditions? But never mind, they have 20 airbags to protect them and are safe...  |
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5th Aug 2020 7:57pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17603 
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The Peltzman effect.
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5th Aug 2020 8:22pm |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3428 
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I drive a velar which has more touch screens than most cars and can’t say I’ve ever had to take my eyes off the road any longer than a car with physical buttons, but then it’s only heating and TR that is operated through the touch screen.
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5th Aug 2020 8:59pm |
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