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bankz5152



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2004 Defender 110 Td5 DCPU Epsom Green
Defender TD5 Cruise Control
Currently borrowing a mates D2 V8 which has cruise control, I've never used it before but its bloody amazing Laughing

I do quite a lot of boring mway miles in my 110 be nice to have CC. Is there anyway it can be retrofitted? Would be nice to use the D2 switch as well, quite neat

That said I have got a 1.3 tx box + 285/75 tyres if that changes anything.... However I can get the ECU adjusted if needed.

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LandRoverAnorak



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D2 cruise control switches are essentially plug and play on a TD5 Defender and you'll need a gadget called a speedo healer to adjust for your tyres and gearing. I'm sure I've seen threads on here with more details that would come up with a bit of searching. I know that Grafty, amongst others, has done this mod to his 90. Darren

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bankz5152



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2004 Defender 110 Td5 DCPU Epsom Green
Nice. Just bought a D2 CC switch and found a diagram. 4 wires so easy!

Will I need the healer even though my speedo reads bang on with the satnav? Instagram @defender_ventures
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LandRoverAnorak



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Hmm, not sure. I guess you could try it without and fit it later if it turns out to be necessary. Darren

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Post #844963 20th Jul 2020 9:42pm
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Martin
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You'll need the healer.

The ECU needs to think it still has a 1.4 transfer box fitted, which means slowing down the pulses going from the speedo to the ECU.

It needs this as there is a check between the engine RPM and speed, if there is a discrepancy - which you will have as you have a different transfer box AND oversized tyres - then the cruise control will not engage.  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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Harry.O



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United Kingdom 1989 Defender 90 300 Tdi ST Nato Green
Like you are planning to do, I fitted the D2 switch on the column and used a Carling switch on the dash to turn off the cruise totally. You will definitely need a Speedohealer with your T-box. Cruise worked perfectly with normal gear ratios but I later fitted a recon box with a v8 5th gear ratio and it wouldn't work above 40mph.

Depending where you wire the Speedohealer will determine if it adjusts the speedo reading or just interferes with the signals that the ECU receives which in turn cause it to cancel cruise automatically because the pulses received are outside of certain parameters. Mine is wired to only affect the signal to the ECU since the 285 75 r16 tyres made the speedo read accurately against a GPS.

Let me know if you want any pictures showing how the switch is mounted or the various ways to wire the Speedohealer depending on what you want it to do and I'll dig them out?


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1989 300Tdi 90 Soft top
1992 200Tdi 90 Truck cab with Land Cruiser axles
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mk1collector



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England 2004 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Bonatti Grey
I’ve added cruise control too and used the disco 2 switch but I also made a standard switch matching cruise on/off switch for the dash.

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gazman



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That looks a neat solution 2014 - current ..... 2003 defender td5 90 (my car)
2009 - current .... 2005 zx10r
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geobloke



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As Martin says, you will need a speedo healer. CC in the Defender is a great addition, although nowhere near as sophisticated as in the freelander but on long trips its lovely. As is oodles of sound proofing Wink

Incidentally, if you are running up to 285/75/16 tyres and a 1.4 transfer box you do not need a speedo healer, or at least I didn't need to. You definitely need the healer if you have an overdrive or a 1.2 transfer box. Last I looked flat dog were the cheapest place to get a speedo healer.

If you have any problems with the CC not functioning or is intermittent then check that the clutch, brake and crank switches/sensor are all functioning as they should, especially the clutch sensor.

Also it is worth whilst you are working around the ECU to put in a direct earth cable from the ecu to the battery.

CC instructions;



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roel



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Netherlands 2003 Defender 90 Td5 PU Caledonian Blue
The tyres don't matter as the ecu doesn't see the difference. My CC works on my 235 85's and on my 35"Simexes. You will need the heeler for the different transferbox. Roel

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derbywill



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England 2005 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Java Black
I have cruise control with a roamerdrive, wired it in to the speed signal that goes to the engine ECU so it leaves the speedo untouched.
I have it on a 5pin relay so con flick a switch so it works with the overdrive engaged and disengaged.

How have people with the Discovery switch mounted it on the column shroud?

Cheers

Will 2005 90 XS
1954 86'' Series 1 tilt
1968 88” 2A 200tdi
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doublecabjon



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So just to clarify, 2001 10p td5, will I be able to get cruise control working with the right parts? Or is this for later Ecu only?

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Harry.O



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United Kingdom 1989 Defender 90 300 Tdi ST Nato Green
derbywill wrote:
I have cruise control with a roamerdrive, wired it in to the speed signal that goes to the engine ECU so it leaves the speedo untouched.
I have it on a 5pin relay so con flick a switch so it works with the overdrive engaged and disengaged.

How have people with the Discovery switch mounted it on the column shroud?

Cheers

Will


You will need to trim a little from the metal bracket that the column shroud attaches to first so it doesn't interfere with the back of the switch once in place

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Cut a hole in the shroud for the back of the switch

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Then a small 90* bracket from a hardware store and a couple of self tappers

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Lastly file the mating face of the switch to suit the angles of the top and bottom parts of the steering column shroud

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Hope that helps Thumbs Up

That on/off switch made by Mk1collector is a lovely touch, it's on the to-do list Cool 2005 Td5 110 Hardtop
1989 300Tdi 90 Soft top
1992 200Tdi 90 Truck cab with Land Cruiser axles
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roel



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Netherlands 2003 Defender 90 Td5 PU Caledonian Blue
I think I have to show my CC setup. Whistle



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There is some engineering behind this. I had the buttons horizontal first, but sand and mud came in the button and blocked them so now the sit vertical and that doen't happen annymore.
This was my trial from 2009 and the wires are long enough to go to the steering column but I didn't take the time to do that yet. Surprised Roel

1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001)
1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009)
2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts.
2003 90 Td5 (2009-now)
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derbywill



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England 2005 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Java Black
Thank you Harry.O for posting that, it is a neat factory looking install Thumbs Up

Now need to find a switch from a D2!

Cheers

Will 2005 90 XS
1954 86'' Series 1 tilt
1968 88” 2A 200tdi
2002 110 Hardtop
Post #848358 6th Aug 2020 11:36am
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