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Bluest



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Plastic Central Heating Pipe.
We’ve got plastic pipe feeding some of our radiators and I’ve a slight leak where one joins to a TRV In the kitchen. Everything I’ve seen online talks about push fit connections, but this looks, from the outside, like a regular compression fitting on the TRV like you get with copper pipe, but I wouldn’t have thought compression fittings would work with plastic.

Before I drain the system and pull it apart, does anyone know what sort of connection this is and what I might need to fix it. Never worked with plastic pipe before. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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Normal compression fittings do work with plastic as well as copper. Usually you have a little stainless insert in the plastic pipe to stop it crushing too much Thumbs Up 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
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Thanks Grafty. So it might be possible to re-seal it with a fresh copper olive and some PTFE tape then.

On a side note, I hate that they have used plastic to the rads. Looks rubbish and is all bendy 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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You might struggle to get a good seal again. There is likely some “spare” pipe in the wall. Pull it though an extra inch, remove the insert and cut it back past the previous compression marks and go again with a fresh olive. Don’t forget the put the insert in first though.
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Might just want nipping up a touch?
Could just be that simple.
Or they could have missed the insert out of the pipe?
Usually poly pipe gives no trouble at compression fitting joints.
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as above if not grafty is spot on ptfe and a olive Smile
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Bluest



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Chugga90 wrote:
Might just want nipping up a touch?
Could just be that simple.
Or they could have missed the insert out of the pipe?
Usually poly pipe gives no trouble at compression fitting joints.


It may be self inflicted. I’ve been placing the floor so the pipes have probably been pulled around a bit. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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I know several years ago when we had had the bathroom altered the plumber used copper to plastic compression fittings that failed after a couple of days, this was on the hot water side ,luckily the floor tiles hadn't arrived so the bath side hadn't been fitted and the leak was noticed. The plastic pipe was removed and copper installed. I didn't look into it further into the cause but I would suggest it it is down to the different expansion rates of the different pipes.

The plastic pipe will have a brass insert to prevent the pipe wall collapsing when the fitting is tightened and the olive bites into the pipe. Don't make old people mad.
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Bluest, try tightening the nut first quite tight, if it still weeps drop the pressure and use a couple of wraps of PTFE not to many, and retry.
If this fails a new insert and olive. More than likely there will be a bit of play in the pipe to cut back just after the olive if not just tap the radiator over slightly.

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