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Ecco

Member Since: 31 Oct 2015
Location: Kuala Lumpur
Posts: 280

2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 DCPU Galway Green

..yes..Kia Soul with look of some sort of SUV will be quite laughable, i can tell..

2nd Jul 2020 9:14am

apt100

Member Since: 05 Mar 2015
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 1547

2016 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Aintree Green

AndrewS wrote:
apt100 wrote:
I was expecting to see a Grenadier in the post somewhere

Don't worry I have reported myself when I realised I put the post in the pretend imitation Defender thread, I'm sure Martin will move it when he gets the alert

2nd Jul 2020 12:19pm

markb110

Member Since: 22 May 2010
Location: Guildford
Posts: 2643

Would be nice to see the New Defender in the same red as yours Andrew.

I'm kind of bored 0f that silver.

Anyway thanks for taking the picture.

And to say it looks like a Kia Soul is like saying that Andrews gorgeous 130 looks like a Jeep....

2nd Jul 2020 7:26pm

Jerry

Member Since: 13 Nov 2015
Location: Cardiff
Posts: 199

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 Adventure Phoenix Orange

Both look great to me...and substantially better than the front end of the Grenadier

2nd Jul 2020 8:19pm

Supacat

Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 11018

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green

Seriously?

3rd Jul 2020 4:35pm

Grouse

Member Since: 16 Apr 2012
Location: on the hill
Posts: 521

Jerry wrote:
Both look great to me...and substantially better than the front end of the Grenadier

Agreed there the front end of the Grenadier is abysmal - it looks like a cheap Chinese knock off Land Rover. The bonnet and side profiles are ok - but then they were stolen from the Defender. The back looks like an early 90’s trooper

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Land Rover 110 300 TDI

3rd Jul 2020 7:51pm

AndrewS

Member Since: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Hereford
Posts: 3708

2013 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 SW Rimini Red

Jerry wrote:
Both look great to me...and substantially better than the front end of the Grenadier

I have to agree it looks terrible, like a cheap Chinese copy. I wanted it to be different, stand alone, not a crap poor imitation. 130's have feeling's as well you know

3rd Jul 2020 7:53pm

Grouse

Member Since: 16 Apr 2012
Location: on the hill
Posts: 521

This is exactly what is so irritating about the Grenadier - the concept is brilliant - 100%. Yet they talk about designing the vehicle and all they have done is stolen the iconic Defender shape, done a very minor re-work, mucked up the front, stolen the Isuzu rear doors and try to claim all the glory - even a child can do that

2017 Range Rover L405 Vogue SE V8 Diesel #16
Land Rover 110 300 TDI

3rd Jul 2020 8:12pm

Tim in Scotland

Member Since: 23 May 2007
Location: The Land that time forgot
Posts: 3753

The front view of the Grenadier looks like it is a very slightly modified latest generation Suzuki Jimny on steroids!
Disappointing that it looks so like the original Defender/Land Rover. My local Indy reckons they won’t cost less than £60000 a pop, he cannot see how they would recover the developement cost with a vehicle costing less and with what are likely to be smaller production numbers than the Puma. He reckons it will end up being another Santana sales wise Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!

3rd Jul 2020 9:23pm

AndrewS

Member Since: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Hereford
Posts: 3708

Tim my dealer said the same

perhaps they all got the same memo from HQ. 130's have feeling's as well you know

3rd Jul 2020 9:34pm

Supacat

Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 11018

AndrewS wrote:

I have to agree it looks terrible, like a cheap Chinese copy. I wanted it to be different, stand alone, not a crap poor imitation.

I'm looking forward to more details of things like door hinges designed so the owner doesn't have to glue ball bearings in them to stop them being stolen, bulkheads that don't leak, paint that doesn't bubble, galvanic corrosion on nearly all points of contact of dissimilar metals, auto gearboxes that give smooth effortless acceleration, an engine that can actually tow a 3.5 tonne trailer over the M62 without having to drop in and out of the crawler lane, a front bumper that's actually sized correctly for a modern numberplate, wings tops I can stand on, multiple recovery points designed into the vehicle, a chassis that doesn't already show signs of rust when collected new from the main dealer, etc.

It's on this level of detail that the vehicle should be judged. In short, with an engineering lead design, form following function, then the journey to the end result will actually be something I will want to understand. No design for design's sake and no talk of bold lines and verticality.

4th Jul 2020 6:18am

LandRoverAnorak

Member Since: 17 Jul 2011
Location: Surrey
Posts: 11324

Given the tale of how it was conceived, I'm surprised that anybody is surprised that it looks like a Defender. That's what Jim Ratcliffe wanted to build - just a better engineered version. Darren

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4th Jul 2020 6:41am

walfy

Member Since: 29 Aug 2007
Location: Frome
Posts: 2661

RDR wrote:
I like the new one

So do I. Can't wait for the commercial, sorry hard top version to be launched 110 D250 SE HT
110 USW SOLD
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4th Jul 2020 3:23pm

diesel_jim

Member Since: 13 Oct 2008
Location: hiding
Posts: 6093

I passed a new white defender today down by Lechlade.... it just blended in with the rest of the euro boxes that were on the road... BORING

The grenadier is growing on me.... if a square boxy shape works, and is useful for custom modification/adding bits to/standing on etc, then why change it?

4th Jul 2020 6:22pm

NinetyTD4

Member Since: 22 Apr 2011
Location: North
Posts: 397

Re: 130 Vs New 110 photo

AndrewS wrote:
At my dealer today I parked my 130 next to a new Defender, my 130 has big tyres and a 2" lift.

Click image to enlarge

The right is a 3am PBB - Pub Bar Bitch - heavy black eyeliner, fat arse, lifted on high heels, trying to pose modern but just no internal flavor only air bubble... you look at these ladies, enjoy it for a minute, try to talk to them but only get empty echoes, turn left and go home to your farm lady wifey with mechanical grinding talking brain on the undercarriage. Never forget: cars have owner, Landrover have field service personnel.

5th Jul 2020 7:12am

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