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zilch

Member Since: 11 Sep 2019
Location: Whitsundays & Sydney
Posts: 818

Tim in Scotland wrote:
LRCS replied to my email yesterday ...............
I also asked about the leak issue - basically that the issue should be directed to the director in charge of production and QC (it’s the same person) and the response was to make a warranty claim at the retailer.

I will ask the question on a Facebook group Tim, quite a few LR managers monitoring the group, maybe they
will pull their finger out

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]On the tyres front I am no further forward

The Goodyear AT adventures are standard

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now also have an issue with the tracks that the roof rails bolt into - in the sun of the last two days ( the air temperature got up to 27C here so the black roof was probably even hotter) the plastic track and the seals have warped but only on the driver’s side! I’ll post a photo once the very vigorous lightening storm we are having here has passed and it’s safe to stand on my ladders!

That is poor, especially for a vehicle that should be able to operate in the US, Australia , Asia and Africa.. I’ll flag that on the group as well yet another pommie bar steward down under

MY20 110 P400 SE Defender
MY10 3.0 RR Sport

26th Jun 2020 8:49am

BearCZ

Member Since: 03 Feb 2020
Location: Czech Republic
Posts: 15

We have these options of tires:

1. Pirelli all season
2. Goodyear Wrangler AT Adventure
3. Duractracs on demand - extra money:D

i ordered my 110 with Goodyear Wrangler AT Adventure tires, because they have higher load then Pirelli (you can have more dynamic load on roof, static too), they should be decent on road a still can handle some off road. Duratracs are for me true off road tires, which i dont need, at least first two years

26th Jun 2020 2:57pm

J77

Member Since: 04 Nov 2019
Location: Fife
Posts: 3395

J77 wrote:
Tim I’ve asked my salesman for you, he’s usually pretty good. He’s sold me all my LRs so I have high hopes to get you an answer on the tyres at least.

Goodyear Warngler Duratrac is the approved tyre.

Also came across this but it’s from the US sales staff product info guide.

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28th Jun 2020 9:35pm

zilch

Member Since: 11 Sep 2019
Location: Whitsundays & Sydney
Posts: 818

it seems the order is dependent on which market your in J. in Australia for example

1. Goodyear Wrangler All Terrain Adventure as standard (sales catalogue have these as "Off Road" tyres but does not specify,
my detailed order sheet states "Robust Tyres 255/65/R19" and another entry "Goodyear"
2. All Seasons are a no cost option
3. Dealers state on the Duratracs,these be an after market option, according to mine anyhow

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It seems the Wrangler AT Adventures are available in the majority of the markets. yet another pommie bar steward down under

MY20 110 P400 SE Defender
MY10 3.0 RR Sport

29th Jun 2020 12:15am

Tim in Scotland

Member Since: 23 May 2007
Location: The Land that time forgot
Posts: 3753

I suppose it depends on what you want to use the vehicle for. In my case the car will be 80% or more on road and 20% offroad so a less aggressive, maybe a little compromised tyre will suffice. I still have my Classic Defender 90 on BFG MT’s for places where I know terrain requires the more aggressive tyre. I don’t intend to start using the L663 Defender for heavy OffRoad stuff for at least another 2-3 years. The new one is so much wider and longer than the old one that it will take a fair bit of familiarising after the petite old 90 Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!

29th Jun 2020 7:28am

zilch

Member Since: 11 Sep 2019
Location: Whitsundays & Sydney
Posts: 818

Tim, i permanently run General Grabber AT's on my RRS .. my personal experience is that AT's are a reasonable
all rounder, both on and off road yet another pommie bar steward down under

MY20 110 P400 SE Defender
MY10 3.0 RR Sport

29th Jun 2020 7:45am

Supacat

Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 11018

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green

Tim in Scotland wrote:

I also asked about the leak issue - basically that the issue should be directed to the director in charge of production and QC (it’s the same person) and the response was to make a warranty claim at the retailer. I KNOW to make a warranty claim what I wanted was for people at the top to get the message that there is a problem that needs solving before other owners (and now I know of 3 others with exactly the same problem on the same window and on First Edition and S models so there must be more with the problem).

Do you know their name?

I'll try and dig out the post on here, but I actually got a few names and email addresses of senior bods, emailed one and got a polite reply.

Supacat wrote:

You're well within warranty so listen for any sign of knocking and get your local main dealer to confirm your diagnosis and have it fixed under warranty. Thumbs Up

if mine was out of warranty and I had this issue then I might be looking at the list of names here and firing them off a personal email.

Email addresses seem to be initial of first name & surname @jaguarlandrover.com.

Go to this website:

http://newsroom.jaguarlandrover.com/en-in/...nts=False#

Top of my list would be:

Nick Rogers - Director Group Engineering, Jaguar Land Rover
http://newsroom.jaguarlandrover.com/en-in/...og_270315/
nrogers@jaguarlandrover.com

Grant McPherson - Director of Quality and Automotive Safety, Jaguar Land Rover
http://newsroom.jaguarlandrover.com/en-in/...hy_021013/
gmcpherson@jaguarlandrover.com

I used the email logic to contact the someone else senior within JLR a couple of days ago and got a reply from them within the day Thumbs Up

https://www.defender2.net/forum/post423699...ail#423699

29th Jun 2020 4:47pm

Green Machine

Member Since: 19 Nov 2010
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 1226

I wouldn't necessarily restrict yourself to the tyres that JLR fit as standard. Manufacturer tyre selections are not necessarily based on the 'best' product, but other factors such as cost, availability, manufacturer agreements, treadwear etc. Also they have to allow for all possible usage cases, which for a product like the new Defender covers a very wide remit. Your individual use will likely be more specific.

I have just ordered a full set of Cooper Discoverer AT3 4S, which after extensive research seem to get very good reviews from those who have fitted them, and would seem a pretty good option for the new Defender (subject to availability of specific sizes). They are marketed as a all season tyre and have the mountain snowflake winter rating, which was a key point for me.

Obviously I don't have them yet and have no first-hand experience (yet!), but just thought it would be another possible option. 2005 Td5 | 90 Station Wagon | Tonga Green

29th Jun 2020 5:01pm

RDR

Member Since: 27 Apr 2018
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 592

This is a question with my dealer at the moment and part of the negotiations. I want the car swapping to AT's they are coming back to me with what they can offer. I will also be buying 5 winters for it as well, I usually go for Wintrac Extremes need to check the 5 new ones i have for the D5 hopefully they might fit it. 110 MY23.5 X Dynamic HSE
RR MY23 HSE PHEV
D5 MY19 HSE - Now Sold
D4 MY16 HSE Luxury - Now Sold
D4 MY12 HSE - Gone
D3 MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten

29th Jun 2020 5:47pm

Telemarkskier

Member Since: 20 Jul 2020
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 126

What size wheels have you gone for?
I am trying to negotiate X5 winter tyres as a swap for the off road tyres for an October build. No promises yet but sales director didn't rule it out and thought he would be able help. Mine is arriving with 20" wheels, unfortunately Vredestein don't make a Wintrac Extreme for that size. I found them to have much better directional grip in comparison to Pirelli Scorpion Winter that I have had recently on my Freelander2.
Its my intention to run the winter tyres all year to avoid 2 sets of wheel or the £46.00 Kwik-Fit bill for swapping over one set for another with potential damage to the alloys during handling at the tyre centre.

23rd Jul 2020 11:59am

Kevantlin

Member Since: 18 Jan 2020
Location: Lancaster
Posts: 32

Any advice on how wide you can go ? The Ko2 is available in a 275 but std factory fit is 255

8th Aug 2020 9:12pm

Tim in Scotland

Member Since: 23 May 2007
Location: The Land that time forgot
Posts: 3753

I’ve gone with the Duratracs in 255/60 R20 with the Q rating. So far with 100 miles on them they are a little noisier than the Pirelli Scorpion All Season but it’s not intrusive noisy and the fuel consumption hasn’t suffered either. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!

8th Aug 2020 9:50pm

Kevantlin

Member Since: 18 Jan 2020
Location: Lancaster
Posts: 32

Thanks Tim, no problems with the insurance company with a Q rated tyre ? My understanding was you couldn’t spec a lower speed rating than the manufacturer ?

9th Aug 2020 6:58am

Tim in Scotland

Member Since: 23 May 2007
Location: The Land that time forgot
Posts: 3753

None, they are good to well over the legal speed limit in the U.K. too - up to 99mph IIRC. I was advised to fit what JLR supplies as the optional offroad tyre and not to fit another maker by my insurer, hence going for the Duratrac. If you can find them, the same tyre is supposedly available here with an H rating too but it was very hard to find any. I doubt very much I’ll be taking the car to over 90mph anyway

not too many race tracks around here and there are loads of mobile “safety” cameras. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!

9th Aug 2020 7:01am

J77

Member Since: 04 Nov 2019
Location: Fife
Posts: 3395

A fair bit of rubber on this one

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12th Aug 2020 9:55pm

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