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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3411  
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The rubber mats actually look better than the premium carpet mats.
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24th Jun 2020 3:14pm |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3411
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I believe the RR Sport has the biggest profit margin. Not sure what it is but runs in my mind I read in an Autocar or Auto Express article. |
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24th Jun 2020 3:16pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753 
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The seat coverings in mine are half leather, the centre of the seat cushion, centre of the seat backs and the vertical surround is leather. The fabric bit is actually quite nice to touch, does not feel cheap. And if the car has sat in the sun less likely to fry your calves o backside if wearing shorts. Warm in winter too even though seat heaters are standard on the front seats., no seat heaters in the back though On my car. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! Last edited by Tim in Scotland on 24th Jun 2020 4:16pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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24th Jun 2020 4:08pm |
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| Stacey007 Member Since: 25 Sep 2015 Location: Cheshire Posts: 3758 
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^ Fair enough but still I'm surprised any £60K car has cloth seats, Alcantara maybe in part especially on sports cars as its very gripy?
Also at this level you can normally choose air cooled as an option with the heated seats so best of both in summer / winter 
Is / was this an option on the defender you could have ticked for another arm & a leg  |
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24th Jun 2020 4:15pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753
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Everyone I’ve spoken to who has cooled seats on an RRS/FFRR says the fans are feeble and you hardly notice the cooling, also the seat heaters are less efficient On cars with heated and cooling seats. It’s an option on all New Defenders except First Edition - living up here I would prefer decent seat heaters over cooled seats. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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24th Jun 2020 4:20pm |
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| labbix Member Since: 15 Jun 2020 Location: Albania Posts: 9 |
I had heated and cooled seats on my D5 and that worked really well, no complaints at all. I had expected a bit more from the massage function, but even that one was nice!
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24th Jun 2020 5:23pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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Why? Some man made materials far exceed any qualities leather may offer; and then you have to think about the type of leather being used in modern High volume vehicles. Sometimes it seems it's almost leather in name only and skinned so fine it needs backing materials to give it any sort of durability. |
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25th Jun 2020 10:23am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17453 
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Many people also won't entertain leather seats on the basis that they don't want to sit on a dead animal.
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25th Jun 2020 11:27am |
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| Ads90 Member Since: 16 Jun 2008 Location: Cots-on-the-Wolds Posts: 812 
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It's like leather sofas - look & smell nice, and good for spillages, but not so good to sit on. I much prefer fabric.
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25th Jun 2020 5:29pm |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3411
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Personally never understood why leather has always been perceived as luxury.
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25th Jun 2020 6:24pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753
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One thing JLR hasn’t wittered on about with this car is how many recycled cola bottles have been used in the furnishings, they went on and on about with Evoque - dash top was made out of 49 1.5ltr bottles IIRC except in my Dynamic Plys it was definitely anti-vegan as I had the Lux Plus with extended leather. My first RRS only the seat squabs and back was was leather, the rest was extremely good faux leather (according to Land Rover) in reality it was some very smart PVC. For many years Mercedes used BenzTex that was also a very convincing leather look PVC too. At least with real leather you don’t get a blast of static electricity when you get out like you used to with velour interiors! Some Range Rovers and Jaguars are now available with something called Luxatec (I think that’s what it’s called) for those who don’t want any part of their car’s interior to be dead animal. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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25th Jun 2020 8:30pm |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2645  
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Eh? Tim, you didn't speak to me, otherwise I'd tell you differently. 
My RRS came with heated & cooled seats, which I always thought was a gimmick, but I will not buy another car without this feature! When the temperature hits 45C here, you *NEED* cooled seats, otherwise you very quickly end up with a damp bottom 
Granted, it doesn't get as cold here as in Scotland, but we do go down to 2C-4C, and the heated seats are simply superb then! -- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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26th Jun 2020 8:12am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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"Leather trim won't be offered on future Minis, according to design boss Oliver Heilmer.
It’s part of a raft of changes that Mini is looking at as it moves towards the next generation of cars. Responsibility forms a key part of the strategy, along with three other values: curiosity, heartbeat and daredevil. Last year, 54% of new Minis ordered in the UK featured real leather. According to Heilmer, the lack of leather is a key consideration in making Minis as sustainable as possible. “We don’t need leather any more in the future, because we don’t believe it’s sustainable," he said. "We're totally convinced that we will have modern and high-value products without leather.” https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-car...-interiors Someone will have to explain why buying a car involves :" three other values: curiosity, heartbeat and daredevil"? |
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3rd Feb 2021 8:04am |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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If cows were being farmed just for their skins then I could see their point but isn't leather effectively a by-product of the meat industry? Sounds like marketing nonsense. Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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