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macfrank



Member Since: 05 Nov 2015
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Germany 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Keswick Green
electronic vehicle health check
Just got the Defender back from it's fifth service at the JLR dealer.
The OSH for the first time states
"Electronic Vehicle Health Check (eVHC)"
At first I thought "well, there isn't much electronic to be checked" Laughing Question
But then, it's not "vehicle electronics check" and I saw this
https://www.landrover.com/ownership/health-check.html
"As part of our supreme level of service, ..." Shocked Rolling with laughter
and thought "Is that what you get if marketing dept has too much time to spare?" Wink
I mean, the items listed are part of regular maintenance anyway.
And if all that just "lasts 15 minutes", then why did I pay 230£ for 2,2 hrs labour for checks and engine oil change?
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kmac



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
EUR 230 for a dealer service is cheap compared to the UK
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macfrank



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In € its 260,- - just for labour! 540€ including oil+filter...
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blackwolf



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The 15 minutes is the time the "service advisor" spends going through the results with you, I think, explaining the defects by means of a red/amber/green framework which is right up around the limit of their intelligence.

It's really very, very sad that anyone should consider this progress.
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kmac



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
macfrank wrote:
In € its 260,- - just for labour! 540€ including oil+filter...


Why I service it myself since the warranty lapsed

Reassuringly expensive, except it is not reassuring
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Lodelaner



Member Since: 04 Feb 2010
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United Kingdom 1988 Defender 90 V8 Petrol ST Shire Blue
VHC, electronic or otherwise is pretty well industry and Europe-wide standard.

Good old European legislation puts a reliance on the workshop to visually inspect and document that inspection any vehicle that passes through the workshop for any work. It should be for any reason : tyres, service to a screen wash top up. In reality if your car has been through the same workshop during the past 6 months they’ll skip it.

A scheduled service may not overtly check key safety related items. The idea is to protect the customer and ensure that they are not unknowingly Driving an unsafe car - hence the red, amber, green coding.

Naturally the industry has turned this into a sales opportunity, which is good business sense.

I see it as a good thing. If a close family member went to have any work done, let’s say a new headlight bulb fitted, at a dealer and it has been through their workshop and a glaring issue wasn’t picked up, you’d be Rightly Censored off and if the car had a catastrophic failure you’d be on the phone to a solicitor the sue them. Nigel Gresham is an extreme case of the owner not knowing best, but the level of red work picked up between MOTs suggests it’s a good thing in the interests of all road users, their passengers and pedestrians etc.

Which is why I think eVHC is a good thing. JB

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zippo87



Member Since: 29 Mar 2019
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Never paid for a service, never will. There once was a time when people knew their cars, knew their houses, their gardens etc etc - I long for that life, the good life 😂. I’ll never mug myself off, charge extra, or turn a blind eye to mine and family’s safety! Evidently I have too much time and not enough money to compete with you guys haha.
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