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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3411  
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3.0 straight six diesel out and about testing
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2nd Jun 2020 9:03am |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3411
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Knowing LR this will only be available on the X. The D200 will do me, there’s not much between that and the D240. The D240 on my Velar puts 500nm of torque but only 430 on the Defender.
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2nd Jun 2020 9:30am |
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| discomog Member Since: 09 May 2015 Location: Notts/Lincs Border Posts: 2530  
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Like Tim in Scotland I have decided to keep my current Defender and next year will chop in the Discovery Sport (reason - why do I need two 4x4's?) and would like to take the plunge with all electric so that means I also will not be going down the Land Rover route. Quite looking forward to seeing the new Volkswagen ID3 and ID4 EV's and with a range of between 200 and 300 miles this will be quite adequate for 95% of my motoring. Defender 90XS SW
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2nd Jun 2020 10:31am |
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| Huttopia Member Since: 23 Feb 2016 Location: West Midlands Posts: 1972
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A friend had a new RR hybrid last year. He had it for 7 weeks, the dealership had it for 12 weeks and then reported it needed new batteries, so he let them keep it. It was going to cost them £36k to replace the batteries. Hard to fathom how a new car can need that.
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2nd Jun 2020 10:51am |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3411
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EVs are still along way off for me, I drove from Fife to London in my D5 on one tank of fuel, 620 miles. My Velar it has a smaller tank but could push 500 miles out of it. That’s the kind of range that would tempt me.
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2nd Jun 2020 10:54am |
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| NinetyTD4 Member Since: 22 Apr 2011 Location: North Posts: 397  
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I only have a simple question - Why? Looking at the numbers of my 2.4 PUMA, calculating back from diesel consumption to power used, I always end up using on average only between 20 and 30 horse power. My daily driver has 122 BHP, meaning I carry about 100 horses of useless. The New will be no different, so what is the benefit to not use 250 horses over 100 unused? Never forget: cars have owner, Landrover have field service personnel. |
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2nd Jun 2020 11:20am |
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| Logannz Member Since: 28 May 2020 Location: Queenstown Posts: 26 
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36k for a battery!! f888.. There's a RR Hybrid on a yard near me that been sitting for 3 years now, Theres zero chance of that every selling now. What an absurd price, the car is instantly written off when the battery goes. I'm suddenly a load less interred in any of the MHEV models until we know the price of a battery. |
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2nd Jun 2020 11:56am |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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The calculation isn't anywhere near as straightforward as that. Whilst it may stack up on average, if your 2.4 really only had a maximum of 30bhp then you'd be painfully aware of its' limitations at every hill and towing would be virtually impossible. More power just enables the same things but generally quicker and with less stress. There's no doubt that my wifes' 240-odd bhp Discovery is much easier to drive than my 122bhp Defender, for example. I agree that there's a limit to its' usefulness though. Beyond the fun factor, there are diminishing returns on the benefits of ever more power. Darren 110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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2nd Jun 2020 12:43pm |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2645  
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What if one could remove the battery pack entirely? Or is that not possible? Surely if there's no battery pack, then the ECU would just run on ICE all the time? -- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged 
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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2nd Jun 2020 1:48pm |
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| Grouse Member Since: 16 Apr 2012 Location: on the hill Posts: 521 |
If you had driven an early Series Land Rover with 60 bhp you would understand why  2017 Range Rover L405 Vogue SE V8 Diesel #16
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2nd Jun 2020 5:29pm |
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| Lodelaner Member Since: 04 Feb 2010 Location: Lambourn Posts: 632 
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The battery packs consist of cells that can be replaced. The issue is safety and skills training for cell handling at The dealership level. I oversaw a programme to implement cell replacement for a manufacturer. The experience worldwide Showed that a Only a max of 4 cells had failed in any battery pack Worldwide, with only one cell failing being the norm. The battery packs are designed to be removed as a service item. Not for replacement wholesale, but to access cells for replacement at a central service facility or at a dealer level. The dealer story of £36k to replace sounds like Dealer bunkum to me. JB @Lodelaner Instagram Youtube greenlaning and other LR related content |
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2nd Jun 2020 5:43pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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I found this slide a little while ago and found it quite interesting: Click image to enlarge |
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2nd Jun 2020 6:30pm |
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