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| sako243 Member Since: 08 Jul 2014 Location: Wales Posts: 1218   
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Best guard? Learn to drive better
In all seriousness I'd question why bother, for the rear? I've done extensive off roading in mine (not competitive) and never felt the need for a rear diff guard. The weak point is the pan, the base of mine has slide across many rocks and taken quite a few knocks over the years and not suffered for it. Unless you're in a habit of reversing everywhere without looking I don't see a particular need for one. Unless you're doing high speed stuff that is or tend to crash a lot  . Most guards I've seen for the rear also aim to reinforce the bottom and the main impact I see from that is reducing ground clearance so ironically you hit it more!
Front diff yes I can see the benefit but I actually only fitted one about 18 months ago to protect my investment when I put a pegged Ashlocker in the front. My personal preferred solution when I get around to it will be cutting off the pans and making up some heavy duty ones instead. But as I say they've survived some pretty serious knocks for 12 years as it is. Ed 82 Hotspur Sandringham 6x6 95 Defender 110 300Tdi |
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3rd Jan 2020 12:24pm |
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| Devon-Rover Member Since: 22 Jan 2015 Location: South Devon Posts: 916  
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The QT services which then became the Bearmach/Wildbear which then became just Wildbear 4x4 still make a guard which I rate as dam good at it's job.
In essence the pan is the weak point and quite rightly it can be cut and a newer and stronger version welded in. What it doesn't stop is the countless miles of the lower studs being dragged through the muck and the stones which wear them and the threads get burred over. Then in the heat of competition change a rear diff in sub 10 minutes with nuts that either don't undo or just refuse to go back on. The slider style wrap around whilst fiddly to fit and another layer to remove does help protect the pan and studs but do allow you to slide over stuff. https://www.wildbear4x4.com/index.php/prod...ard-detail Even my road chariot running these guards has seen a lot of action and protected the diffs. Also can be found on Fb, Ytube, Insta & Twitter @4WDSouthwest |
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3rd Jan 2020 4:51pm |
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| Bps Member Since: 14 Feb 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 830
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Cheers for that. I’ll have a look. I’ve got a qt on the front and I’ve been pleased with that 👍
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3rd Jan 2020 4:55pm |
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| Chris86 Member Since: 15 Jul 2014 Location: South Yorks Posts: 789 
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Im running a Wildbear rear wraparound one and have given it one really good clout messing about on some rocks as well as the usual scraping it through ruts and the like.
Its been spot on- they are a bit fiddly to fit but otherwise perfect. Chris |
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5th Jan 2020 9:42pm |
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| Roy5695 Member Since: 15 Feb 2014 Location: Cornwall Posts: 1123 
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Another shout for the WildBear one.
 Click image to enlarge 2011 Defender DCPU 2.2 - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic30623.html Instagram - @r22oyp Roy |
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5th Jan 2020 10:43pm |
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| L110CDL Member Since: 31 Oct 2015 Location: Devon Posts: 10756 
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I did have a QT diff guard on and no problems with it
But i seemed to wear out the diff pans allot ( they got thin ) so i got this instead and it had to be a special order in black as i did not want a red one  i have had no problems so far with as well 
Click image to enlarge 1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up.
Keeper. Clayton. |
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8th Jan 2020 8:27pm |
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| donmacn Member Since: 06 Nov 2017 Location: Nth Scotland Posts: 1841 
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I thought I'd just add this on here, as it's a recent and relevant thread.
Notwithstanding the opinion that a rear guard isn't such a priority, I've been looking at one of these.... This is from the firstfour website, but there are others very similar. There's a comment above about them being a bit 'fiddly to fit'... It all looks more or less straightforward, apart from getting access to the lower, middle diff retaining nut once the guard is in place. It looks like it could be a right pig going by the pics, but perhaps it's much easier in practice? I can't obviously see how I'd get something in there to torque up the nut? It's the middle of three on the larger piece in the pic -just next to the writing. Has anyone done one of these? "Right  " or "not so bad"?
Ta Donald 1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong (The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html ) 2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8 in the past.. RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi 1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box 1993 Discovery 300Tdi not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper... |
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21st May 2020 3:07pm |
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| bankz5152 Member Since: 02 Feb 2017 Location: South London/North Kent Posts: 2169 
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That type doesnt fit. The main plate does but the top section does not, out by around 50mm.
Could always fit an HD diff pan from Gywn lewis but its more fab work than bolt on. Rears can be important if youre having to rock the landy to get out of a ditch etc.. my mate cracked is diff pan doing exactly that. Cost him a new diff. So for £50 or so worth doing just to be safe. Instagram @defender_ventures Empire Tuning - Agent |
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21st May 2020 4:42pm |
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| donmacn Member Since: 06 Nov 2017 Location: Nth Scotland Posts: 1841
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Thanks Bankz. Useful to know that before spending the pennies.
But in fact, It looks like I'll need to do some more homework anyway. I thought the rear axle on my car was a 2007. Turns out it's a 2009. P38 diff. I did have a look at Gwyn's stuff, but as you say it's all weld on, and I was looking for a DIY/ bolt on job. Presumably some of these 'wrap around' guard and slider ones must fit, or they wouldn't still be on the market? Donald 1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong (The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html ) 2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8 in the past.. RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi 1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box 1993 Discovery 300Tdi not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper... Last edited by donmacn on 21st May 2020 6:20pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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21st May 2020 6:10pm |
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| donmacn Member Since: 06 Nov 2017 Location: Nth Scotland Posts: 1841
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Double post Donald
1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong (The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html ) 2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8 in the past.. RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi 1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box 1993 Discovery 300Tdi not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper... |
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21st May 2020 6:18pm |
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| bankz5152 Member Since: 02 Feb 2017 Location: South London/North Kent Posts: 2169
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Cant be a 2009 P38 as the stopped making them 20 years ago
P38 rear diffs are shortnoses as well, same diff. Out of interest why did you swap from the Salisbury? Instagram @defender_ventures Empire Tuning - Agent |
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21st May 2020 6:56pm |
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| donmacn Member Since: 06 Nov 2017 Location: Nth Scotland Posts: 1841
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Well, I have a 2000 P38
 - but I'm not looking for a diff guard for that yet.
No, I meant that my 2009 axle has the short nose or 'P38' diff. Why get rid of the Salisbury? It's a few years ago now, but as I remember it at the time - there were two main reasons. The axle casing wasn't in great nick - it had been regularly dumped and left in the sea by the previous owner (an island airport); and perhaps related to that the diff itself could have done with some TLC and adjustment, but my indy weren't able (or didn't want?) to do the casing stretch thing to get it out. Something like that. It made sense at the time. My thinking might be a bit different now I suppose. I've found a Nakatanenga 'slider' type guard - but as you might expect that comes with a price premium. Anyone with any other recommendations? Bearmach do a 'one plate' job, but that looks to me like it could exert a lot of leverage on the diff nuts... Donald 1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong (The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html ) 2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8 in the past.. RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi 1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box 1993 Discovery 300Tdi not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper... |
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21st May 2020 7:18pm |
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