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110 Iain



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Chawton White
Wheel. Bearing spacer advice
Hi advice needed on bearings just done swivel seal bearings on hub are fairly new hub uses stupid stake nut can I leave spacers in
And convert to 2 nut system or do I need to replace the lot many thanks Endeavour To Persevere
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
If you want to convert to the 2-nut system, discard the spacer, discard the stake nut, and fit the two plain nuts with the correct pattern tab washer between the nuts. The bearings, the seal, and the thrust washer are the same for either system.

It is a very simple upgrade and makes maintenance and adjustment much easier.
Post #831564 17th May 2020 12:15pm
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110 Iain



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Chawton White
So I can use existing bearings and remove spacer at back of hub will it all reseat OK sorry for questions bit new to this Endeavour To Persevere
Post #831567 17th May 2020 12:24pm
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landy andy



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The spacer is in between the bearings. The spacer is not at the back of the hub. You have bearing, spacer, bearing, washer, then stake nut. We have bearing, bearing, washer, nut, lock washer, 2nd nut (I think)
Post #831574 17th May 2020 1:10pm
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110 Iain



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Chawton White
Thanks guys just kept stake nut for now as I had new ones managed to loose two new nuts that I ordered will change next time
Need to come away from landy for a bit wife concerned about steady stream of parcels arriving considering I'm not working at moment
Also not impressed by swivle grease on every handle surface in house thanks for all advice given Iain Endeavour To Persevere
Post #831579 17th May 2020 2:06pm
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jst



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^^^ correct.

to change to two nut principle discard the spacer from between the two bearings. Cheers

James
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130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
Post #831580 17th May 2020 2:07pm
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blackwolf



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When you're shopping for the nuts and tab washers, buy new hub oil seals as well. They're not expensive but you have to take the old one out to remove the inner bearing inner race so that you can get the spacer out. Not only is it bad practice to reuse them, it is almost impossible to remove them without damage.
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gazman



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So does the tab washer go between the nuts?? I've always fitted it behind both nuts and folded it over both 2014 - current ..... 2003 defender td5 90 (my car)
2009 - current .... 2005 zx10r
Post #831693 17th May 2020 11:32pm
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bear100



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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Starting at the inner face of the hub working towards the wheel, you should have:-

Oil seal
Inner bearing
Nothing where the spacer used to be
Outer bearing
Thrust washer (the thick washer with the flat to match the flat on the stub axle)
Inner nut (the end-float/preload adjusting but)
Tab washer (the thin bendy one with the flat to match the flat on the stub axle)
Outer nut (the lock or jam nut)

The tab washer must be bent over one face of the outer nut, many people also bend it over one face of the inner nut, which isn't strictly necessary but doesn't do any harm
Post #831709 18th May 2020 6:49am
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jst



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blackwolf wrote:
When you're shopping for the nuts and tab washers, buy new hub oil seals as well. They're not expensive but you have to take the old one out to remove the inner bearing inner race so that you can get the spacer out. Not only is it bad practice to reuse them, it is almost impossible to remove them without damage.


? sorry lost here a bit. if hes is not changing bearings he doesnt need to take the oil seal out. the spacer can come out the front of the hub. why do you need to take the rearward inner race out? Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
Post #831867 18th May 2020 8:29pm
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blackwolf



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Doh! Of course it can, what was I thinking?

Forget the seal, you don't need it, sorry!
Post #831876 18th May 2020 9:03pm
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