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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17354   
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I'm not sure it will be very interesting, it'll just tell us what we already know: firstly that they are all extremely good at what they are/were designed to do, secondly that the new one is designed for a completely different purpose and market to the old one, and thirdly that standards of refinement and usability have changed beyond recognition in the last 73 years. |
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9th May 2020 4:45pm |
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| AndrewS Member Since: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Hereford Posts: 3707 
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Dealers are fitting the 'Option packs' to the cars! I would have thought that they would be fitted on the production line. 130's have feeling's as well you know
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12th May 2020 3:19pm |
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| LiftedDisco Member Since: 17 Aug 2014 Location: Towcester Posts: 352 
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There is no comparison, both in capability or in potential - Defender is light years different to a Series 1 and I can appreciate the difference in the driving experience between the two. Likewise, the new Defender is a dramatic evolution of the earlier versions - it retains the off-road credibility and actually takes it to a new level of capability. The purists will argue that this takes away from the driving experience and makes everyone behind the wheel look far more capable than may be due to them, but the reality it that it’s truly an awesome bit of kit off road and (I think) looks pretty darn good in the flesh. My off-road comments are based on following mules around the (restricted) engineering routes at Eastnor and seeing stuff that I probably shouldn’t have seen... Sure, Series 1, Defender and new Defender would be an interesting comparison, but not sure it’s much of a real-world comparison as aesthetics and heritage are pretty subjective comparisons... |
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16th May 2020 6:12pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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I think I read somewhere - although I may have made it up! - that the vehicles are locked down into a "delivery" mode, so can't access all the features, limited to a crawling speed, etc. Similar to some vehicles having a valet mode. Needs the dealer to plug it in and input release codes to make it all work. |
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17th May 2020 7:29am |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3389 
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Makes sense, I think a lot of features these days are activated at the dealers.
Sure I read that the 110 will get the option of coil suspension in the near future. |
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17th May 2020 10:36am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17354
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That would make a lot of sense, since modern transporters are always high-density and the result of the suspension pumping itself up during loading or unloading could be expensive. In fact this sort of thing has been happening for years. For example, I believe that Disco2's left the factory in delivery mode one feature of which was to disable the odometer, so that when the car left the dealer it wouldn't show any miles driven prior to PDI. |
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17th May 2020 10:54am |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3389
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I think this is the first dealer car in Scotland, Taggarts LR.
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17th May 2020 12:09pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753
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I know that when they ship air suspended LR products by sea the suspension is in a “transportation” mode to prevent the cars wobbling in bad weather and touching the vehicles around them that are only about 2-3 cms apart and also to prevent the system being damaged when the cars are lashed down in the car deck so I expect cars on a transporter to have similar treatment. I know something is activated as there are tell tale paper strips in the wheel arches and I found one on a one of my new RRS’s a few years ago that stated on it that it was to be removed before delivery and it hadn’t been which made me query with the dealership how thoroughly the PDI had been done...... they sent a flat bed recovery truck out immediately to collect the car from my house and take it into the workshop for a full inspection ........ I got the car back a few hours later with a note that they had found nothing out of pace and the person Doing the PDI had forgotten to remove the telltale! Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! Last edited by Tim in Scotland on 18th May 2020 10:58am. Edited 1 time in total |
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17th May 2020 2:13pm |
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| RDR Member Since: 27 Apr 2018 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 592
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Dealer messaged me today their demonstrators arrived a First Edition. hoping to arrange to go see it, need to size the boot up for the dogs its our one concern with the 110. 110 MY23.5 X Dynamic HSE
RR MY23 HSE PHEV D5 MY19 HSE - Now Sold D4 MY16 HSE Luxury - Now Sold D4 MY12 HSE - Gone D3 MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten |
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17th May 2020 5:34pm |
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| familymad Member Since: 13 Dec 2011 Location: Bucks Posts: 3481 
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Click image to enlarge[/quote] I have to look the other way. Just hasn’t grown on me and looks so generic 1951 80" S1 2.0 1995 110 300TDI 1995 90 300TDI |
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17th May 2020 7:09pm |
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| Mdm Member Since: 11 Sep 2013 Location: Sunny Lancashire Posts: 1594
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got passed by one today on m40.circa 90-100mph covered in mud on a 20 plate
looks better dirty my passenger didn't recognise it as a lr nor a defender and we were in one (older defender) |
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17th May 2020 8:16pm |
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| 22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3149 
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They go well over the speed limit on M40 all the time. Pretty poor show by JLR to allow obvious test vehicles to be driven like that on a public road. Speed limits don't seem to apply on Warwickshire back roads either.
 2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton 1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker 1969 IIA 1-Ton 1966 IIA 88" |
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18th May 2020 6:41am |
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| AMBxx Member Since: 24 Jul 2016 Location: York Posts: 1030 
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I have to look the other way. Just hasn’t grown on me and looks so generic[/quote] Each time I see a side view, I think 'maybe'. Then a picture like the above appears - no thanks. |
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18th May 2020 8:05am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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That's just a nod to the engineering heritage when they used to get up to all sorts of speeds on the local roads...I'm reading the "record" was 185mph in 1964 - although not by a Land Rover! |
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18th May 2020 8:09am |
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