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| Harry.O Member Since: 25 Jul 2014 Location: Warwickshire Posts: 716   
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Gearbox out, it's also a bit cleaner since you aren't messing about disconnecting coolant and PAS pipes etc. My gearbox failed whilst on holiday in Ireland and I dropped the gearbox with a bottle jack, a trolley jack and a borrowed socket set in the corner of someone's farmyard, it wasn't ideal but easily doable single-handed.
If you have an engine crane then it would be even easier, take out the seatbox lid and put the crane in through the door to lower the gearbox onto the floor, a bottle jack under the crank pulley helps to tip the engine back. You may then need to jack up the vehicle to get the gearbox out from underneath as the bellhousing might not fit under the chassis rails (assuming you have height standard suspension). 2005 Td5 110 Hardtop 1989 300Tdi 90 Soft top 1992 200Tdi 90 Truck cab with Land Cruiser axles |
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12th May 2020 7:40am |
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| Christian1402 Member Since: 17 Feb 2016 Location: Cumbria Posts: 214 
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I see what you’re saying re the coolant and pas, I’m not too fussed about making a mess it’s more just the struggle of getting things out/back in.
The crane through the door could work though, that’s a good shout. I don’t Necessarily need to get the gearbox out from under the car, providing I have enough room to whip the clutch and flywheel off. I just envision getting the gearbox out ok and not being about to get it back up and into position on my own, I only have a trolley jack, I haven’t yet invested in a bottle jack and my defender doesn’t have one! |
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12th May 2020 8:34am |
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| Mo Murphy Member Since: 01 Jun 2008 Location: Letchworth Garden City, Herts Posts: 2252 
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If the vehicle is on the ground then engine out, it's much easier and more accessible.
These days I have access to a 4 poster and it's easier then to do gearbox and transfer box out with the vehicle up in the air. Thus  Click image to enlarge HTH Mo The Land Rover 90 - Many are called, few are chosen. 50 Shades of Pennine Grey |
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12th May 2020 9:38am |
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| Nidge Member Since: 27 Jan 2008 Location: Kildare Ireland Posts: 819  
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Just replaced the clutch on mine and agree with Mo, engine out if you have a crane and box out if you have a lift but it really depends on the equipment you have access to.
I'd also look to change flywheel and rear crank seal while you are at it and if changing the crank seal a new sump seal as you need to drop sump slightly on TD5 to do crank seal properly. Snap Mo 
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12th May 2020 12:09pm |
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| Mo Murphy Member Since: 01 Jun 2008 Location: Letchworth Garden City, Herts Posts: 2252
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snap indeed nidge !
Mo The Land Rover 90 - Many are called, few are chosen. 50 Shades of Pennine Grey |
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12th May 2020 2:44pm |
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| Christian1402 Member Since: 17 Feb 2016 Location: Cumbria Posts: 214
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Well that’s that then! Looks like I’ll be taking the engine out. This will get the neighbours talking 😅
Thanks for the advice |
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13th May 2020 7:13am |
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| diesel_jim Member Since: 13 Oct 2008 Location: hiding Posts: 6105 
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I did mine last year on the drive with engine crane. I dropped the gearbox down (for the same reasons mentioned; couldn't be arsed with the mess of the coolant and fuel pipes), plus my gearbox is mounted on a 300Tdi crossmember so it's removable, makes the gearbox "easier" (as in, slightly more easier than wrestling a bear) to get the 'box out.
I also had to hi-lift one side of the 110 up to allow the box to slide out from underneath (I dropped it onto a large steel drip tray, made it slightly easier to slide across the tarmac) |
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14th May 2020 8:00am |
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| roel Member Since: 08 Aug 2009 Location: Lelystad Posts: 2039  
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I also would go with the gearbox out. Till now I didn't take the gearbox out yet only the transfer box off. But with a rollcage and some ratchet straps it was easy. Roel
1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001) 1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009) 2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts. 2003 90 Td5 (2009-now) |
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14th May 2020 8:34pm |
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| miker Member Since: 13 Sep 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 1767 
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Having done engine out and gearbox out, I'd choose to do the gearbox route personally. Easier with 2, possible with 1 and a trolley jack. High lift trolley jack and jack adapters are on my list for next time!
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14th May 2020 9:20pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17484 
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^^ If the high lift trolley jack is primarily for doing this job, you might want to consider a bespoke transmission jack. It is much more stable, and really does make the job easier.
This is the sort of thing I mean (chosen at random for illustrative purposes): https://www.lawson-his.co.uk/sealey-500cew...ya-p119997 |
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15th May 2020 7:11am |
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| diesel_jim Member Since: 13 Oct 2008 Location: hiding Posts: 6105
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And my rear crank seal is now pssing out.... so looks like it'll be engine or box out again
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15th May 2020 11:27am |
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