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CharlieDonuts



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I take the point that yeah you take it off and its fine and then one day, probably ten years later, you're bloody stuck.

I think that I will do this. Mantec don't make one anymore but I can get a wolf one. I didn't know that there was a solution.

I just thought that I was a bit weedy and you lot were all tough bronzed South African / Australian / ex Military types.
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blackwolf



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You won't find a simpler, more portable, and more effective tool for getting a wheel back on the hub than a spade, as I suggested above. If you don't believe it, try it.
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defender9



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Blackwolf, thanks for that, I did think about a spade used as a lever, thanks for the confirmation Thumbs Up
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JOW240725



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To lift a wheel on the hub, I've always just sat on the floor with legs straddled either side of wheel then lift wheel with knees. Just need to be careful nothing slips. James
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ARC99



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Getting the spare off can be a dangerous task I know of at least two people that have suffered broken bones to feet and ankle after the wheel and tyre slipped from their grasp. My method is to grasp it below the centre, turn and push it away from my body and drop stepping back at the same time. Getting it back on is another matter, being elderly I find it impossible to lift off the ground as I don't have the strength , my preferred method is to open the rear door , get the wheel and tyre onto the tow hitch and flop it into the rear, then getting the tyre fitter to fit on the back door unless a good Samaritan stops to give a hand. Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to Censored us off.

Richard
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CharlieDonuts



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Just out of interest has anyone ever tried lifting the spare up to the mount with a high lift jack ?
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blackwolf



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How would you imagine that working? I can see a number of potential issues (and that's before the "fun police" kick off about Hilift jacks)! Laughing
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ARC99



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CharlieDonuts wrote:
Just out of interest has anyone ever tried lifting the spare up to the mount with a high lift jack ?


Someone else suggested that to me, he wasn't happy about me whacking the jack handle up and down between his legs while he hung onto the wheel. Rolling with laughter Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to Censored us off.

Richard
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CharlieDonuts



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I am not really brave enough to try but was thinking that maybe some else had ^^^^^
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Be careful of the wheel bouncing and hitting you in the face area too. Place it down, don’t drop it or it will bounce.
Guess how I know, luckily got off pretty scot free. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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andydef90



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I like to have a spare just never know if you need it rip a hole in a tyre and no foam will fix it
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diesel_jim



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BogMonster wrote:


So the answer is probably no you don't, except when you need one, when yes you do.



That's the answer in a nutshell!
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Julie



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CharlieDonuts wrote:
Just out of interest has anyone ever tried lifting the spare up to the mount with a high lift jack ?


I had all of my wheels changed in Brittany - spare wheel included.
The guy did his job all alone bolting the spare wheel on the rear door. Quite impressive.

And I have BFG KM3 on it.

In France, the spare wheel is not mandatory. But there are other countries, where you'll need it:
just have a look https://www.oponeo.co.uk/blog/mandatory-eq...-in-europe

So better leave it where it is, if you use your car on long distance trips.
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discomog



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Great advice from Julie if you're travelling in other countries. Like Andydef90 I managed to rip open a side wall on a hidden concrete block - so glad I had a spare wheel. I'm getting too old to be hugging large wheels and tyres around so got a nice guy from the AA to change it for me.

If I hadn't have been carrying a spare wheel then it would have been a choice between recovery or leave it and hope the scumbags don't discovery it and help themselves to my bonnet and doors.

I'm definitely an advocate for a spare wheel - space saver or full it doesn't matter Defender 90XS SW
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Wild Card 90



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An interesting link. Julie, thanks for that. Thumbs Up
Spare wheel required in the Czeck Republic and Slovakia. Both destinations popular and relevant for Landy owners.

However, my last puncture on one of my vehicles was 30 years ago. Never had a flat on three Defenders, although the previous two spent plenty of time off-road.

The spare on the door of a Defender looks great and can be quite useful (for attaching a bike or other objects temporarily to the vehicle). It does get in the way at times (trailer hitch, reversing and just opening the door).Touring, or living in a remote location, I wouldn´t want to be without one.
On both my previous Defenders, I never questioned its presence.

However, when I bought the 2.2 six years ago, the spare had been removed by the first owner. Before refitting it, I decided to see how it felt without the 35 Kilograms hanging off the back. I haven´t missed it at all, and love how light and easy the rear door operates without it. 1998 Tdi 90 SW,
2008 Td4 90 SW,
2012 2.2 90 SW,
2" raised Trailmaster/Terrafirma
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